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Taylor Swift is bigger than Michael Jackson ever was that's nowhere near

factory yes it is Perez then you don't remember the age. I remember the

80s. The media was the most insane thing I've ever witnessed in my life and

nothing will ever be bigger. She is bigger than Michael Jackson. Oh she's not.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On this episode of Newt's world, as many of you know, I spent three and a half years living in Rome,

while Callista served as ambassador to the Holy See.

In our time there, we met so many fascinating people,

some of whom were American expatriates

who now live in Rome full-time.

My guest today is somebody who had introduced us to Rome many years ago.

A very close personal friend and a brilliant person.

Elizabeth Love, or Liz, as we call her.

She is someone we got to know long before we got to Rome officially.

She's an art historian. She has an amazing TED Talk on the Sistine Chapel.

She's been working as a guide in Rome for over 20 years and I recommend her very highly and she teaches at

Duquesne University's Italian campus as well as the Pontifical University of St. Thomas

Aquinas. She is just a remarkable teacher who is great fun, has great energy, has a ton of ideas,

and she's currently teaching a course on the Sistine Chapel. And when she told me that I'd begged her to join us for this

conversation to talk about our mutual love of Rome, it's art, history, cuisine, and people,

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