From the creators of Relevant Magazine, this is the Relevant Podcast.

It's Friday, July 19th, 2019, and it's the Relevant Podcast. I'm your host, Karen Strangin,

here with me in our Landis Studios. On the ones and twos, my illustrious brother, Chandler

Strang. I'm just consolidating. It was too long. I'll get to the other person in a second.

On the Skype line from Loverlay in Virginia, Jesse Carey. Hello, hello. From Nashville, Tennessee.

Tyler Huckabee. Howdy, y'all.

And sitting four feet from me here in our studio, author, podcaster, speaker, Jamie Ivey.

Hey, guys, I'm in Orlando. In the house. I know. I know. Oh, Jamie, Jamie, I have so many questions,

but first I want to know, did you ride your tiny house from your backyard in Austin all the way there?

Because that seems like the perfect traveling situation. Because someone else drive you to chill

out. It's like you're just going to stay at home. You just binge watch stuff all day, you know?

I actually left on Sunday. I've been working the whole time just been riding that tiny house all

the way here. No, I've been working in the tiny house while someone else drove it down.

What brings you to lovely, nice and cool, comfortable temperatures,

southern July or Orlando? Yeah. It feels just like Texas, by the way, but

it's Texas this human for real? No, it's not this human. Okay. Your heat is more like an oven heat.

Our heat is a moist heat. Yes. Yes. And not just sound like I haven't bought moisturizer in 30 years.

I mean, you just walk outside. No, that's hard. It's in Houston. Okay.

Houston is like that. Yeah, but Houston. Houston is like a swamp. It is. Okay. Here are horrible

humidity gets it keeps like crescendo's all day. And then in like right now, four or five o'clock,

black skies, torrential downpour, breaks, it's like a daily rain. Yeah, we're tropics. Yeah.

That's that's what happens here. Houston, it just suffocates here. Yeah. Yeah. And then hurricane

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