Episode 72: The women fighters behind the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, with Elizabeth R. Hyman
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Haviv Rettig Gur
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🗓️ 29 December 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising stands as one of the few shining moments of (temporarily) successful Jewish resistance in the bottomless evil and despair that was the Holocaust. Heroes of the uprising like Mordechai Anielewicz and Yitzhak “Antek” Zuckerman form part of the national civic religion of Israeli Jews, and of Jewish commemoration ceremonies worldwide.
But the men of the uprising didn’t do it alone. Without Zivia Lubetkin, Tosia Altman and the other women couriers and fighters, the uprising may have failed to organize in the first place. Yet how many Jews know those names or their incredible story?
Our guest today is author Elizabeth R. Hyman, whose recent bestselling book The Girl Bandits of the Warsaw Ghetto tells the astonishing history of some of the greatest heroes the Jewish people have ever produced, but whose exploits were all but ignored and even forgotten after the war.
Through memoirs and diaries, Hyman tells their story, dragging the couriers of the ghettos into the light of history and Jewish remembrance and giving us a fuller picture of Jewish courage in the deepest darkness Jews have ever known.
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This episode is sponsored by the Persian American Civic Action Network (PACAN), a non-profit organization which asked to dedicate the episode to Israel’s generation Z as they are the embodiment of Zionism in action and spirit, as well as the incredible renaissance led by their gen-Z counterparts in Iran standing tall against the radical Islamist tyranny that has invaded Iran and the Middle East since 1979.
“In its endeavor to rebuild bridges of peace, brotherhood and good will, PACAN was the first Iranian-based organization in the diaspora to lead a mission to Israel to meet with Israeli leaders, media and NGOs in 2019.
“As much as the Islamic regime tries to erase Iran’s history or propagate the diabolical prophecy to wipe out the Jewish State, we remember the inalienable Biblical alliance of the Jews and the Iranians, known to the western audience as the ‘Persians,’ who from the days of Cyrus the Great have facilitated the return of Jews to their homeland and the rebuilding of Zion.
May we soon begin a new season of brotherhood, partnership, and good will between Iranians and Israelis.”
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| 0:00.0 | You know, they would have conversations like, oh, you know what? |
| 0:02.6 | I think it is great that Hitler's taking the Jews with them. |
| 0:04.9 | I hope they burn in hell. |
| 0:06.0 | They would have those conversations on board the trains, jump off the train, sneak into the nearest ghetto, |
| 0:11.8 | take guns out of their underwear and their Jewish patches out of their bra, |
| 0:16.1 | and bring news to their comrades in the Vilna ghetto, the Bialystok ghetto, etc. |
| 0:25.6 | Hi, everybody. Welcome to a new episode of Ask Hav Anything, one I'm really excited about. |
| 0:33.1 | My guest today is Elizabeth R. Hyman. She holds a dual master's degree in history and library and information science from the University of Maryland College Park. |
| 0:43.2 | And we're here to talk about her new book, The Girl Bandits of the Warsaw Ghetto. |
| 0:48.9 | It was published earlier this year, and it tells through the memoirs and diaries the incredible story of five Jewish couriers. |
| 0:58.5 | Young women, Kashariot, as they call themselves in Hebrew, who led a lot of the Jewish |
| 1:05.9 | communities' efforts at survival. I thought I knew the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. I did not. So we're going to get |
| 1:13.6 | into it. But first I want to tell you that we have a sponsor this episode. This episode is sponsored by |
| 1:18.6 | the Persian American Civic Action Network. That's a non-profit organization that wants to dedicate |
| 1:25.0 | the episode to Israel's Generation Z. As they are the embodiment of Zionism in action and spirit, as well as the incredible Renaissance led by Generation Z in Iran, standing tall against the radical Islamist tyranny that has invaded Iran in the Middle East since 1979. |
| 1:50.1 | Pakan, or P-A-C-A-N, in its endeavor to rebuild bridges of peace, brotherhood, and goodwill, |
| 1:54.8 | was the first Iranian-based organization in the diaspora, the Iranian diaspora, |
| 1:59.6 | to lead a mission to Israel to meet with Israeli leaders and media and NGOs in 2019. |
| 2:02.7 | They asked me to read, As much as the Islamic regime tries to erase Iran's history or propagate the diabolical prophecy to wipe out the Jewish state, |
| 2:10.4 | we remember the inalienable biblical alliance of the Jews and the Iranians, known to the Western |
| 2:15.6 | audience as the Persians, who from the |
| 2:18.8 | days of Cyrus the Great have facilitated the return of Jews to their homeland and the rebuilding |
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