Hello, everyone. Welcome to the official Outlander podcast. I'm Matt Roberts, executive producer,

and I am here with Merrill Davis and Tony Grafia, both executive producers. Hello, Tony and Merrill.

Hi, Matt. Happy to be here. Matt, before we get too far, do you want to talk about that opening London shot,

that visual effects shot?

Because I remember it being hard to get to that final shot.

Yeah, you know, I mean, we're always, we were talking about what the show that shows it's London.

I mean, in modern days, it's extremely easy.

You know, you have the Elizabeth Tower, you have Big Ben or the eye and all the new modern buildings that are so iconic with London.

But back in the day, it was, you know,

what to show. So, and how much. So that's always, you know, a topic when we get into

flashbacks and, you know, historical, what we call establishing shots.

And I will say on this scene, you know, it's so nice scene how John Gray's brother,

I was a little disappointed.

I think we all wear this season that we couldn't include the storyline with how, or back in season seven, I should say um as this is um to show the storyline

where Claire and Jenny kidnap Hal and come after nurse him back to health and the whole

um you know Denny romance storyline um so it was just one of those things from the book that we just couldn't include and

decide not to bring Jenny to the colonies and leave her in Scotland.

But I do think the writers, you guys, did a nice job, though, making this such a great cohesive season without

some of those storylines they're missing.

Well, you know what?

I'm going to put both of you on the spot because I get a lot of – I get this question

a lot, and I try never to answer it.

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