I'm Molly and I'm Matthew and this is spilled milk the show where we cook something delicious,

eat it all and you can't have any.

And that's literally true because we just ate a delicious lunch of the stuff we're going to talk about,

which is our best friend, Rosemary.

That's right.

The herb.

The herb.

That's what everybody calls it. Just when they talk about herb, they're talking about rosemary. Yeah, like the good herb. Yeah. Dank. The sticky icky. Sticky. Rosemary is kind of sticky. Is it? I mean, a little bit. Let's get into it. Okay, let's get into it.

Okay, so hey, Matthew, what's on your rosemary memory lane?

Okay, mine is mostly breads because a favorite bread of us and like I feel like there were some friend that was like introduced us to it like you got to try this bread, was the essential baking company, Rosemary

Diamante, probably in the early 2000s.

Around the time I moved to Seattle, this was like the bread to buy.

Right.

That was before we both got obsessed with the Columbia City Bakery, Walnut LaVan.

That's right.

So, yeah, so we love this stuff.

Then there were also Grand Central baking rosemary rolls, which were really good.

And I feel like I didn't realize it till prepping for this episode that I feel like rosemary is maybe kind of a late 90s, early 2000s trend.

I think so, too.

So to me, rosemary is inextricably linked to roasted potatoes and roasted chicken.

So when my dad got into roasting chickens, I'm guessing maybe this was like the second half of the 90s, he would always roast chickens with some rosemary and he would make rosemary roasted potatoes. Now, why wasn't he roasting chickens before that, do you think? Once again, we're going to mention Barbara Kafka. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And I don't remember when that book came out. No, I think you're right. Her roasting book, I think, was early 90s. Okay. So, yeah, I just remember... Maybe even mid-90s? When my dad discovered roasting chicken, because he discovered that, too. Yes, right, right, of course. When my dad discovered roasting chickens, you just, when you roasted a chicken, there had to be rosemary with it. And in the same meal, you would probably be having roasted potatoes, which would also

involve some rosemary. Sure. Okay. And I think when I first started roasting chickens, I was like,

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