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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 71: Everyone Knows It Is Saudi Arabia!!!

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2018

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

We have much to discuss in the world of national security and law this week, including but not limited to the worst-kept secret in the world. And we have some grade-A frivolity if you are able to stay tuned to the end.  To wit: Doe v. Mattis and the district court ruling enjoining the government from transferring Doe to Saudi Arabia.  Wait, what's that?  The identity of the receiving state is a secret?  Except that Doe is a Saudi citizen and there are multiple points where the briefing reveals that the plan in question is to send Doe back to Saudi Arabia.  Ah well.  We've got an extensive discussion of the good and the bad about Judge Chutkan's ruling on the injunction, functioning also as a preview of the oral argument that will occur this Friday morning. The capture of 9/11-related suspect Mohamed Haydar Zammar: another high-profile captive with European citizenship in SDF custody in Syria, adding to the importance of determining what will become of those detainees for the long term. News of two former GTMO detainees who had been transferred to Senegal, but whom Senegal then sent to Libya--at which point they have disappeared. Meanwhile, another 9/11-linked individual (Mohammed al Qhatani) is seeking to use habeas jurisdiction to press for an external medical review of his circumstances. In Trumplandia, we've got heavily-hyped allegations of classified information in memos Jim Comey wrote; a sprawling lawsuit filed by the DNC against an array of defendants including Russia, the GRU, Guccifer 2.0, Julian Assange, Roger Stone, Wikileaks, Don Jr., Jared, the Trump Campaign itself, and then some.  It raises some interesting Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act questions. An update on the gradual progress of the Special Counsel protection legislation, and the prospect of an interesting amendment from Senator Grassley. We also draw attention to this very handy resource mapping the reactions of various states to the US/UK/FR missile strikes against Syria. Best (or worst) of all, however, is our finale, as we have an uber-geeky breakdown of a critical doctrinal dispute, a question of categorical definition put in issue by Billboard announcing its list of 100 greatest "boy band" songs of all time.  What are the necessary and sufficient conditions to qualify as that kind of band?  That's all for now; bye bye bye!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 71 of the National Security Law podcast.

0:14.0

We're brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas.

0:18.0

It's Tuesday morning, April 24th. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Vladek. Bobby, we are into the

0:22.6

last week of the semester. Oh, that is sweet news. Music to my ears. What are you going to do with

0:29.1

all that free time that comes open? Have a baby? Well, I'm not the one having a baby. True.

0:35.4

And I suspect that, you know, the president's going to create some work for both of us.

0:40.4

Oh, yeah.

0:40.9

I think we'll still record.

0:42.4

We will still record.

0:43.2

Maybe the baby will be a special guest.

0:46.6

What could possibly go wrong?

0:49.2

It'll improve the production values of this podcast.

0:51.8

It can only go up from there.

0:53.4

All right, so here we are, 10 a.m. Tuesday morning, Central Time, April 24th.

0:57.3

Bobby, what is going on very little?

1:00.0

Well, if we had to talk about something, I suppose we could talk about some brand new hot out-of-the-oven Supreme Court decisions.

1:08.3

Yeah, the Supreme Court's actually decided in some cases.

1:10.4

Not many, though.

1:11.2

Not many.

1:12.2

The Supreme Constipation continues.

1:15.2

Oh, how about that?

1:16.7

That's your term, not mine.

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