Episode 70 - Veronica Navarro
The Minds of Madness - True Crime Stories
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🗓️ 17 February 2020
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The opinions expressed in the following episode do not necessarily reflect those of the Minds of Madness Podcast. |
| 0:07.0 | Listener discretion is advised. Oh, In the spring of 2011, Veronica Narro was taking a break from an on and off again relationship |
| 0:47.0 | when she thought she'd met the man of her dreams. |
| 0:50.4 | Little did Veronica realize, within months her dreams would turn into an |
| 0:56.2 | unimaginable nightmare. Join me now as we dive into a case of a young woman who encountered mortal danger |
| 1:06.4 | while looking for love, you'll discover how the most dangerous people can seem the most alluring and the lengths they'll go to to hide it dark and disturbing |
| 1:18.8 | past. And the Veronica Navarro grew up in the southern Texas City of Laredo during the early 90s, |
| 1:42.4 | the second oldest of six children, |
| 1:45.0 | the Navarro household was always buzzing with activity. |
| 1:50.0 | Though Veronica got along with all of her siblings, she was especially close with her older sister |
| 1:55.5 | Jacqueline. |
| 1:57.1 | From an early age, people were naturally drawn to Veronica's warmth and positivity. |
| 2:02.6 | Those who knew her, thought she was friendly, |
| 2:05.3 | upbeat, and fun to be around. |
| 2:07.9 | One of those rare people who could make anyone instantly feel accepted. |
| 2:13.0 | As a teenager, Veronica would often visit her cousins who lived in East Austin. |
| 2:19.0 | During one of her visits, Veronica took a particular interest in one of their neighbors, a boy named |
| 2:26.3 | Chris Kishimba. |
| 2:28.5 | Chris and Veronica shared an instant connection and quickly fell in love. |
| 2:34.4 | After graduating high school, Veronica moved to Austin to be closer to Chris. |
| 2:40.0 | Before long, the couple moved in together. |
| 2:43.5 | Friends and family described their relationship |
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