Episode 70: Lucas Call Revisited
Suffer the Little Children
Suffer the Little Children Pod
4.6 • 993 Ratings
🗓️ 14 July 2021
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
After I released that episode, I heard from a lot of listeners who expressed sympathy for and outrage on behalf of Lucas’s biological mom, Shelby Call, whose learning disability was one of the reasons the state of Utah used to justify removing her children from her care in the first place. For this episode, I was honored to speak with Shelby, who is honestly one of the sweetest people I’ve ever had the privilege of encountering. You’ll also hear my candid conversation with Shelby’s husband, Lucas’s father, David, whose arrest for possession of child pornography set off the chain of events that ultimately led to Lucas’s death.
This is the heartbreaking story of Lucas Call, revisited.
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| 1:21.7 | podcast giving voices back to the Victims of Child Abuse |
| 1:25.0 | And shining a harsh spotlight on the parents, |
| 1:27.0 | Guardians and Caretakers who silenced them. |
| 1:30.0 | I'm your host, Lane, and this is episode 70, Lucas Call, revisited. |
| 1:35.4 | A few weeks ago, in episode 65, I told you the story of two-year-old Lucas Call, who died from |
| 1:40.5 | blood-force trauma in 2018. |
| 1:43.6 | His foster mother, Lisa Joe van der Linden, |
| 1:45.8 | took a plea agreement that amounted to a slap on the wrist |
| 1:48.6 | and was released after just nine months in county jail. |
| 1:52.0 | After I released that episode, I heard from a lot of listeners who expressed sympathy for |
| 1:56.0 | and outrage on behalf of Lucas's biological mom, Shelby Call, whose learning disability was one of the |
| 2:01.2 | reasons the state of Utah used to justify removing |
| 2:03.8 | her children from her care in the first place. |
| 2:06.6 | For this episode, I was honored to speak with Shelby, who was honestly one of the sweetest people |
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