Episode 70 - Heather Havrilesky
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 12 September 2017
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Summary
Heather Havrilesky is the author of “How to Be a Person in the World”, a collection of essays from her hit Ask Polly column in New York Magazine. In her writing, Heather has an ability to hear and see people in a way that feels selfless and genuine. In this week's episode, Sam and Heather try to do same for one another. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music for the show is by Dylan Peck. www.dylanpeck.com Original illustrations by Krishna Shenoi: www.krishnabalashenoi.com.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. I'm David Remnickin each week on the New Yorker radio hour. |
| 0:12.8 | My colleagues and I unpack what's happening in a very complicated world. |
| 0:17.6 | You'll hear from the New Yorker's award-winning reporters and thinkers. |
| 0:21.0 | Jilani Cobb on race and justice. Jillapour on American history. and Thinkers and |
| 0:24.0 | Jil Lepore on American history, Vincent Cunningham and Gia Tolantino on |
| 0:27.6 | culture, Bill McKibbon on climate change and many more. |
| 0:31.6 | To get the context behind events in the news, listen to the New Yorker |
| 0:35.3 | radio hour, wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:48.5 | There are people who want to tell you the truth about themselves and there are people who really, really don't want you to know the truth about them. They don't want to have |
| 0:55.2 | conversations about the truth about you or them, right? A lot of people who seem uninterested in telling the truth, the second you are in a |
| 1:11.6 | peaceful place and can say the tell the truth about yourself without a lot of |
| 1:18.8 | white noise around it or a lot of like a lot of the noise I'm making in this fucking interview. |
| 1:24.6 | The second you start to do that, those people kind of blossom in front of you because they feel like |
| 1:36.1 | now I can access like finally here's someone I can really tell the truth to you know which is amazing and then the less amazing thing is that when you do reach that level of comfort |
| 1:47.4 | where you can make some people just come out of their shell you sort of have this false expectation that, you know, you go |
| 1:57.4 | through this sort of hazy phase. |
| 1:59.1 | It's kind of like when you are in therapy and you start to feel your feelings and talk about your feelings and |
| 2:03.8 | then you kind of feel like you can just take that on the road and turn anyone into the |
| 2:08.1 | perfect loving friend just by giving you know shining your compassion onto them. |
| 2:14.7 | There's this feeling where you think that you're going to bring that out in everyone. |
| 2:19.7 | And the world is full of love. |
| 2:21.7 | And all you have to do is just connect with people. |
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