Episode 7: The Outlaw Handbook
I Was Never There
Acast Creative Studios
4.6 • 759 Ratings
🗓️ 7 July 2022
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
When it came to living on the edge, Marsha wasn't just a big talker; she really did walk a vanishingly thin line between fearless and reckless. We consider Marsha’s complicated and ultimately unsettled legacy, speaking with those whose politics she shifted and shaped, those whose artistic trajectories she launched, and those she left in the emotional — and financial — lurch.
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| 0:00.0 | Just a heads up, this episode contains descriptions of racist actions. |
| 0:07.0 | What are you looking at? |
| 0:09.5 | The back of the t-shirt that said the Underground Railroad with musical notes |
| 0:13.8 | in a circle of the big dipper and the moon and stars that say follow the drinking gourd, which is |
| 0:22.0 | one, two, three, pleasant street. After Marcia disappeared, Diel packed away a box of ephemera. |
| 0:30.7 | It's sort of like her personal archive of Marcia. Diel hadn't gone through it in years. |
| 0:37.3 | So on one of our trips down to West Virginia, we met up at a friend's cabin near our old farm in Braxton County. |
| 0:44.9 | It was time to take a look at what was left. |
| 0:48.8 | Inside, there's that old t-shirt, concert posters, and copies of the newsletters |
| 0:55.1 | Marsha published over the years. |
| 0:57.6 | I thought I had it. |
| 0:59.6 | This is the... |
| 1:01.0 | She loved this. |
| 1:02.2 | My dad did her corporate paper. |
| 1:04.0 | Yeah, this is the corporate seal for the Underground Railroad. |
| 1:07.3 | Yep. |
| 1:09.0 | It was also sometimes painful looking at Marcia's memory made tangible through a collection of papers and items. |
| 1:17.1 | Especially now that we had discovered so much about her, we had never expected. |
| 1:22.7 | All right, D'L. |
| 1:25.4 | How are you feeling about this podcast thing? thing well that's a rough question to start |
| 1:30.8 | about i i feel bad enough about this you don't want me to hear about that you feel now |
| 1:36.8 | you feel bad enough about what revisiting all the marcia stuff for as much as I am to holding on to memories and |
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