What big fitness and trainer counts do you follow? I love to learn about stuff I don't fully have

a grasp on yet. So somebody who's going to break down peptides for me and stem cell therapies and gene

editing. That fascinates me. I want to learn about it and understand it, whether it's safe. It's a different

conversation. But that stuff, I'm really, that new frontier.

At this point, look to people that have their degree.

I know we've become very...

It's a lot of glit trainers on the internet.

I know, but those have inserts.

Those are not real.

Like, no one's asses.

Like, no, that's not real.

There's like an insert you put in your pants.

Don't, come on now.

You can't fall for that.

That's, that's ridiculous.

Hi, and welcome back.

Welcome to this episode of the Katie Miller podcast. We're so excited to be joined today by Jillian Michael.

It's exciting. Make this more exciting, liar. I feel like I'm probably the least exciting guest you've had.

No, you're actually one of the most exciting because I've not only watched you on TV for years, but someone who is, I am very into fitness. So it is very excited to talk to someone else who shares my deep love of fitness and working out and to hear how I'm doing it wrong and how I could do it better. Gosh, I doubt you're doing it wrong, but I'll try to be aggressive and beat you up a little bit. I'm sure you have some hot takes on a lot of different fitness out there. But can you give us the brief and the audience a brief 30 seconds for those

of you who haven't watched you for years? Got it. Okay. Who is Jillian Michaels? What has she done?

And what is she doing now? Who is Gillian Michaels? A mom, a global citizen, I've built a career in health and wellness. First came to be a forward-facing

individual many years ago on an infamous NBC show called The Biggest Loser, which happened to be number

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