Welcome to the Phoenix Helix podcast dedicated to maximizing autoimmune health through the paleo

diet and lifestyle. While there is no cure for autoimmune disease, the choices we make every day

can have a powerful impact on how we feel. I'm Eileen Laird, your host from PhoenixHelix.com, and I reduced my

rheumatoid arthritis pain by 95%, which took me from a life of excruciating

pain and disability back to a full and beautiful life. A short disclaimer, I'm neither a doctor

nor a nutritionist and the opinions expressed here are personal. Always consult with your

health care team before making medical decisions. Now let's get on to the show.

Welcome to Episode 69.

Our topic today is healthy deviance.

In the modern world, the cards are stacked against us,

from grocery stores filled with foods that aren't real food,

to be bombarded by environmental pollutants and everything from our furniture

to the air we breathe and the water we drink, to a culture that takes pride in being busier than ever

and wears sleep deprivation like a gold star. When we take steps to recover and enhance our health,

we are going against this tide, stepping outside the norm, and let's face it, it's not easy. We're doing it in a

world that encourages unhealthy life choices, and sometimes even our closest friends and family

try to sabotage our efforts. My guest, Pilar Jarosimo, is a health care journalist who has

been writing about healthy deviants for decades. She is the founding editor of experienced life

and award-winning Healthy Living Magazine that reaches more than 3 million people nationwide.

She is the co-host of one of my favorite podcasts called The Living Experiment, and I'm very

excited to have her as a guest on our show today. So welcome to the show, Pilar.

Thank you so much, Eileen. I'm really

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