Episode 67: Til We Have Faces, Ch. 16-21
The Literary Life Podcast
Angelina Stanford
4.7 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2020
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to The Literary Life Podcast! This week, our hosts are covering chapters 16-21 of C. S. Lewis' masterpiece Til We Have Faces. Also, to celebrate Cindy's re-release of her book Hallelujah: Cultivating Advent Traditions with Handel's Messiah, she is doing a social media giveaway over the next four weeks. To enter to win a copy, post about the book release with hashtag #hallelujahadvent.
They begin the conversation about Til We Have Faces with an examination of Lewis' personal journey and its similarity to Orual's own in this story. This opens up a discussion of education, Lewis's schooling, and Charlotte Mason's philosophy. Angelina then goes on to talk about the three types of veils worn by Orual, and Cindy and Thomas explore the idea of veils and their role in relationship and power. Orual's friendships with Bardia and the Fox further highlight her continued blindness to her own disordered affections.
Join us next week for the last installment in our series on Til We Have Faces. The following episode will be a special interview with Wendi Capehart on her literary life!
Commonplace Quotes:
Hundreds of people can talk for one who can think, but thousands can think for one who can see. To see clearly is poetry, prophesy, and religion. All is one.
John Ruskin
Since then I have always been addicted to something or other, usually something there's no support group for. Semicolons, for instance, I can never give up for more than two hundred words at a time.
Hilary Mantel
The two hemispheres of my mind were in the sharpest contrast. On the one side, a many-islanded sea of poetry and myth; on the other, a glib and shallow "rationalism." Nearly all that I loved, I believed to be imaginary. Nearly all that I believed to be real, I thought grim and meaningless.
C. S. Lewis
Moonlight
by Walter de la Mare
The far moon maketh lovers wise
In her pale beauty trembling down,
Lending curved cheeks, dark lips, dark eyes,
A strangeness not their own.
And, though they shut their lids to kiss,
In starless darkness peace to win,
Even on that secret world from this
Her twilight enters in.
Book List:
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Hallelujah by Cindy Rollins
Sesame and Lilies by John Ruskin
Giving Up the Ghost: A Memoire by Hilary Mantel
The Narnian: The Life and Imagination of C. S. Lewis by Alan Jacobs
A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | You're going to. Welcome to the literary life podcast where your hosts Angelina Stanford and Cindy Rollins, explore a life shaped by books, stories, and poetry. |
| 0:28.0 | Each week, we will rescue story from the Ivory Tower and bring it to your couch, your kitchen, and your commute. |
| 0:35.0 | The literary life is for everyone because in the words of Stratford Caldecott, |
| 0:39.0 | to be enchanted by story is to be granted a deeper insight into reality. |
| 0:44.0 | Hello and welcome back to the literary life podcast. |
| 0:51.0 | I am not Psyche or Oriole but I may be veiled I don't know Mr Banks am I |
| 0:56.2 | veiled no that would defeat the mystery if I were to answer I kind of like the idea that she's in the |
| 1:01.5 | veil and she strikes terror in the mystery so maybe I'll just I want to be the mysterious Mrs. Banks so perhaps I should go |
| 1:08.4 | There you go well you know you wanted to be the mysterious Mrs. Banks. I don't know that I have mystery in me so anyway I am here with the mysterious Mr Banks and the blonde bombshell herself Cindy Rollins. |
| 1:22.0 | Good to be here as always. |
| 1:24.0 | Yes, glad to be here. |
| 1:25.0 | I just got my hair done. |
| 1:27.0 | Not quite as blonde. |
| 1:28.0 | The blonder bombshell. |
| 1:29.0 | No. |
| 1:30.0 | No, I'm like a tone down, but it's still blonde, it's still blonde, but it's not as squiring. |
| 1:36.0 | Look, Cindy, 20 has had enough, okay? I can't take any more. Don't you dare not be blonde. I can't take any more. |
| 1:41.6 | Some things just have to be steady and |
| 1:43.2 | predictable in my life right now. Well I was getting blonder and |
| 1:46.6 | blonder just because that's the nature of highlights. You just |
| 1:49.7 | eventually become all blonde. So I'm kind of stepping back and starting over but I will continue to be |
| 1:55.7 | blonde okay so your hair went through a death and rebirth I can live with that that's right |
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