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The Co-Main Event MMA Podcast

Episode 669: The UFC & combat sports enter ‘Plato’s Cave’

The Co-Main Event MMA Podcast

Chad Dundas

Sports, Leisure

4.8698 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

What’s even real anymore? That’s the question we ended up asking ourselves after last weekend’s slate of combat sports chaos. For starters, Isaac Dulgarian’s first-round submission loss to Yadier del Valle at Saturday’s UFC Fight Night sparked yet another fight-fixing scandal. At this point, you couldn’t blame a casual viewer for wondering: Is this whole shit rigged? Also, there was referee Mark Smith’s bizarre stoppage in the heavyweight bout between Ante Delija and Waldo Cortes-Acosta — a mix-up that led Delija to believe he’d won, only for the fight to be restarted and Cortes-Acosta to immediately score a knockout victory. Whoops! And that’s not even touching the boxing world’s latest drama: Gervonta “Tank” Davis getting booted from his fight with Jake Paul after new domestic violence charges, followed by Paul acting like he was just now discovering that Davis might be a terrible guy. Oh, and Andrew Tate is apparently the new CEO of Misfits Boxing, a move that might be real, might be trolling, or might just be setting up a future fight with KSI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Co-Main Event Podcast, and now your host, Ben Folks and Chad Dundas.

0:18.1

That's right. You're listening to another episode of the co-main event mixed martial arts podcast.

0:24.9

I'm Chad Dundas. That's Ben Fulks. We're both longtime MMA journalists and for the last 13 years.

0:33.6

We've been meeting here every week to break down all the action in the wild, weird, and occasionally wonderful world of mixed martial arts.

0:44.0

Ben, I don't know if you can hear it in my voice, but I think, if anything, the MMA news cycle reminded us over the weekend, perhaps in keeping with the news cycle in the rest of the world,

1:04.7

it showed us shit can always get worse.

1:10.2

You know, like, I wish that we were sitting here of a Tuesday afternoon talking about how there was a dog shit fight night down there at the apex in Las Vegas.

1:23.6

Steve Garcia went out there and convincingly whooped up on David Onama and beat him in the first round and got his seventh win in a row and nobody gives a shit.

1:34.4

Now he's going to fight Josh Emmett or something.

1:36.4

I wish that we were having that conversation.

1:39.8

But we're not.

1:41.2

We're not having that conversation.

1:43.1

We're going to sit here at least during the beginning of this show, and talk about fight fixing of all goddamn things.

1:51.9

It can always get worse, brother. It can always get worse.

1:55.6

And see, I can hear it in your voice now, now that you mention it, you're longing for just the normal days

2:02.2

of the just some fights era, the oversaturation era, the lull between big time events that

2:09.5

actually matter, and instead we have to address the question of, is this sport fucking crooked?

2:16.6

Is the shit fixed?

2:18.6

Especially because, you know, we've done this before.

2:23.0

We've had this whole conversation before where guy goes out there right before the

2:28.8

fight, the betting lines do something weird.

2:31.9

Everybody goes, oh, what's that about?

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