Episode 661: Dr Jacob Rugh, Dr Michael Wood, Grace Soelberg; New BYU Research On Black LDS.

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Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2023

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

My friends Jacob Rugh, Michael Wood and Grace Soelberg (all from the Department of Sociology at BYU) join us to talk about their new peer-reviewed and scholarly published research to better understanding the experience of Black Latter-day Saints. The research article is called “Making Space Behind the Veil: Black Agency within a Predominantly White Religion” in the Journal of Scientific Study of Religion (see show notes to access the article). In the podcast Jacob, Michael and Grace give powerful insights and examples to better understand the experience of Black Latter-day Saints—including the concept of W.E.B. Du Bois’s concept of ‘twoness.’ They also talk about why they embarked on this groundbreaking research effort and their hopes on how the findings can help improve the experience and better value the contributions of Black Latter-day Saints. I was so moved listening to these three authors. The principles and insights help me new tools and perspectives to help better create Zion, see and address racism within myself, and the work we still need to do in our community. I encourage everyone to listen to his episode and check out their research. Thank you, Jacob, Michael, and Grace, for your needed voice in our community! Links: Article in the Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jssr.12854

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:11.0	My guests on today's podcast, they're going to talk about a new research report that they've done.
0:19.0	But first, I'll introduce my guests that are joining me via Zoom.
0:23.8	I'm Grace Solberg.
0:25.1	Welcome to the podcast, Grace.
0:27.3	Hello.
0:28.7	I'm Grace recently graduate from BYU and is starting a master's program in University of Utah.
0:33.3	Tell us about what you graduated at BYU and then what your focus of your master's program is.
0:41.6	I graduated from BYU in 2021 with a history degree and minors in sociology and Africana Studies.
0:49.9	And I'm going to the U to study American history.
0:53.1	And Grace was on our podcast way back in episode 242.
0:57.6	That's three years ago.
0:59.7	And so it's been good to get to know Grace and so grateful to have her back on the podcast.
1:05.8	And then we also have two BYU professors on the podcast, Dr. Jacob Rue and Dr. Michael Wood. Welcome both of you to the
1:14.9	podcast and you're co-authors of this research we're going to talk about. Tell us, Jacob, let's
1:21.5	have you go first. Tell us where you got your PhD and just a little bit of bio about you.
1:27.1	Sure. I received my PhD from Princeton University. I study public affairs and urban
1:33.3	policy in particular and studied sociology and other fields there. I've been here at BYU now
1:39.3	for 11 years. I've taught over 3,000 students and Grace Grace was one of them, and has been a wonderful student NTA and now a co-author and somebody I admire a lot.
1:51.7	I'm originally from the south side of Chicago.
1:55.4	My wife and I, we have five children, and we enjoy riding our bikes and listening to your podcast.
2:05.8	So it's an honor to be here. Thanks for having me.
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