Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

My guest on today's podcast, joining me via Zoom from his home in Utah, is my friend Patrick Risk.

Welcome to the podcast.

Thank you. So good to be with you again, Richard.

Patrick was on episode 297 back in August of 2020.

That helps and remind us how fast we're recording episodes were in the 600s, three years later.

And that's a credit to the brave people that step forward and share their stories.

And I became, you know, I've known Patrick, obviously,

for a while, since he's been on the podcast, count him as a friend, he's doing great work

in our community to be on. But then one day I saw that he had published a new book. And I

get so many requests to be on the podcast that sometimes it's hard to me to and manage all

these requests. It's a good thing, but sometimes I feel impressed to invite somebody on the podcast

and work them into the schedule. And that's what I felt impressed to do with Patrick, because I thought

listeners should be aware of his book. And the name of the book is one day at a time,

daily hope for those navigating their own path of healing. And part of Patrick's story is going to

share as being a survivor of sexual abuse as a child. And that's a brutal road. And he talked

about that on his prior podcast. And one of the

things that Patrick said to me, and I put it in my first book, and I still get emotional as I

think about this, he said, as he was navigating his sexual abuse, he said, he sort of went from what if to what now. And this gift that Patrick has,

and I don't know how he got in this space to sort of accept the reality of a situation and just

say, what now? And look forward. And I think that's part of Patrick's ministry and our faith

and beyond. And I haven't read Patrick's book, but maybe that's part of Patrick's ministry and our faith and beyond. And I haven't

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