Episode 652: Dr. Julie Fraumeni-McBride, Researcher and Educator on Women Porn Use

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Richard Ostler

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4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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My friend Dr. Julie Fraumeni-McBride (married LDS mother of six children) joins us from her home in Temecula, CA to talk about helping women solve porn use. Julie (who got her PhD in Education and Disabilities Studies and now is a Researcher and Education Program designer at the Steadfast Institute) helps us understand the latest research to end porn use. Julie talks about why the addiction/recovery model is not supported by the latest research—while the ACT model is. Julie also talks about framing porn as a reliance and not an addiction. She talks about helping people deconstruct the shame around porn and how that is a key step to ending porn use. Julie also talks about how parents need to be the “trusted experts” for their children regarding topics around human sexuality—included why this is important, how to do this, and how normalizing these types of conversations is important and doesn’t lead to more curiosity. I was deeply moved by Julie’s insights as a researcher and program designer. I’m grateful for Julie’s voice using facts to give us more tools to solve porn use. If you are working to end porn use (male or female) or what to help others, this will be one of the most helpful podcasts for you. Thank you, Julie, for all your needed work in our community and beyond. Podcast Links: The Steadfast Institute: https://www.thesteadfastinstitute.org/ Dr. Fraumeni-McBride’s Instagram Page: @drfraumenimcbride The Steadfast Institute Instagram Page: @thesteadfastinstitute Researchers mentioned: Brian Willougby https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/brian-willoughby Nathan Leonhardt https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/nathan-leonhardt Chelom Leavitt https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/chelom-leavitt Dean Busby https://fhssfaculty.byu.edu/directory/dean-busby Jason Carroll https://familylife.byu.edu/directory/jason-carroll

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.9	We're going to talk about helping women solve porn use.
0:13.2	We've done very few episodes on that topic.
0:15.8	We've talked about pornography, but we haven't talked about helping women solve porn use.
0:20.6	We had Maddie Davis on
0:22.9	episode 622, a BYU, female BYU student who shared her own porn use and her journey to solve.
0:29.4	That was really brave, and it listens for that episode are very high. And now we have Julie
0:34.9	Fraumani McBride on the podcast. Welcome, Julie. Hi. Julie is somebody that's in the space from a researcher, research perspective of helping women solve porn use. So it's the first researcher I've had on the podcast. It's really studied this space and is now developing
0:54.6	content to help women solve porn use. Julie, just by background, lives near Temecula, if I said
1:03.5	that right, I always have a hard time saying Temecula. She is a married mother of six young
1:08.8	kids. She's LDS, devout LDS, converged to the church at 19, shared with me a little bit about her conversion story.
1:16.7	It's a beautiful story.
1:18.6	She went on to get a Ph.D. in education and disability studies.
1:24.1	And she's a researcher and program designer for the Steadfast Institute and some of the
1:32.8	content she's providing is women solving porn use.
1:36.0	So this isn't coming like I would be as a former WISA bishop from a pastoral perspective
1:41.7	or just sort of what I've gathered.
1:44.1	Julie's coming from a heavy research perspective or just sort of what I've gathered.
1:47.0	Julie's coming from a heavy research side.
1:49.1	She's just listening to her.
1:57.5	She's very analytical, very focused, and has a PhD and just has really thoughtful insights to helping women solve porn use and will probably be broader than that.
2:01.5	Is that okay for an introduction, Julie?
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