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Hello there friends, welcome to laughter permitted. I'm Julie Gullia and I'm here with Linio. Hello Lin.

Hi Julie. This is our final episode of season 5. And we had the idea from the start,

although maybe full disclosure, Colleen didn't quite know about this, that we would save the best

for the last and in the season with Dr. Colleen Hacker and no surprise here,

Lynn. She did not disappoint. No, she never does. And this conversation was powerful. I think it

hits differently than the previous episodes we've done. What was consistent for sure is walking

away with new ideas. I'll speak for myself to directly put into my life.

And we focus in this episode on stress-related growth and all that can be gained

from difficult situations we go through. Dr. Colleen Hacker or Flash, as I call her, as she is

always shining light, is a professor of kinesiology at Pacific Lutheran University and an expert

in performance psychology. She has worked with numerous Olympic teams, elite athletes,

and corporate executives on mental skills. And here she is once again to spread her wisdom with

all of us in the dope village. So get comfortable listening. It's Flash.

Flash. First off, bless you. Bless you. Three times for taking the time, my friend, because I know

you're at the end of your school year and things are crazy. You're heading into an Olympics, so you

have a ton of work with athletes going on. And yet remarkably so, you have never ever said to me,

how does it never sound, Jules? Ever. When will that be coming?

I'm telling you, laughter permitted is my go-to. I need this for my sanity podcast.

So the answer is always an enthusiastic and a grateful yes. To be honest with you, though, I

feel like it's a little bit like the Saturday Night Live host. I keep thinking, I'm going to come

back till I get a squeaky toy and get to compete in trivia. So I thought it might be this time,

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