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All right, but what's occurring?

What's occurring, presented by Swift? How do you make?

Good. Good, thanks, yeah. Just, we thought we'd do a special pod this while special.

Something a little different. They're all special, mate. They're all special.

Exactly.

But we thought we'd talk about our youth and, you know, because recently there's a lot of

talk about the young guys and why and how and all this and that. So,

thought we'd just talk about our days in the academy and what it was like for us and how it's

completely different these days, I guess.

Yeah, exactly, mate. I think you spent two years on the academy.

I think we should, and I spent three. I think firstly we should probably explain

what the academy is, which is simply the under 23 great Britain programme.

And it was...

Yeah, so I thought, you were there at the start when you were a founding member, were you?

No, I was one year later. So, we started in 2004, Royal Delima started it.

Cav was on there the first year, Ed Clancy, Matt Bramier, then a couple of other guys.

Some white, maybe.

Yeah, the guy from the island man, he didn't last very long, though.

What was his name? Anyway, Conor.

Brusega, maybe.

Brusega was there as well. Yeah, Christian Valley.

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