From the creators of Relevant Magazine, this is the Relevant Podcast.

It's Friday, September 7, 2018, and it's Relevant Podcast. I'm your host, Karen Strang,

and here with me in our Orlando Studios, our illustrious engineer on the ones and twos,

my brother, Chandler Strang. On the Skype line, back where he belongs in

Loverland, Virginia, Jesse Kerry, hello, hello, on the Skype line from Nashville, Tennessee,

Tyler Huckabee. Hey everybody, and joining us all the way from a mile away from Tyler,

author speaker, podcaster, Annie F. Downs. Good morning, Jets.

Whenever I drive by the church, they're Annie, I give a little, I know you're not in there all the time.

Oh, maybe you are. I think it is. I kind of think of you as being a church. She pays with that

piecing. She does not leave the church. It seems terrible. It seems like a terrible life.

There's a lot of other places you could drive by and wave and better chance of me finding me there,

but thank you. Tyler, you're never tempted. You're never tempted just to do a pop-in like on 90

sitcoms, you know, just knock it on the door, popping in. Driving across from the church is top

golf. So it's that classic Sunday morning dilemma when you're driving. If you're going to drive

to cross-point church, so I want to swing in the cross-point and get the word, or know what it's

like. Pop over to swing in the top. And just take a few swings. I was so waiting on you to do a

double swing. There's a swing in the church or a swing in the golf club. Take a couple hacks,

is I call it? Take some hacks. I've never golfed in my life. You guys could be saying, I don't know

these words, me. It's not real golfing. It's like swinging a ball. It's like a real life pinball

machine that's basically with top golf. Yeah. It's like real life pinball. I would have gone

a long time ago. I thought it was like golfing where you stood still and I wouldn't feel in that.

No, it's super, super fun. It's like a, it's like, like Cameron said, being, so you stand up on

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