Greetings dear listeners, this is Jonah Goldberg and this is another exciting edition of

the Remnant Podcast and it is also the one year anniversary of this I consider

still fledgling work in progress podcast this week's episode or today's

episode because we might do another one this week I know Jack doesn't know that

yet is sponsored by Donor's Trust and by Zip Recruiter more about both of those

in a little bit and also some other odds and ends in the various in

sundry section at the end of this conversation but let's get started right now

and this week or today we actually have two guests which is something of a

rarity around here we have Jonathan Hyte and Greg Lukyanov got a guy close enough

for the good yeah okay and they're the authors of the coddling of the American

mind how good intentions and bad ideas are setting up a generation for failure

now if you're a remotely engaged person you've probably heard some of this

you might have read the Atlanta original anti-carticle that started this and

so we're gonna we're kind of gonna skip ahead from some of the normal

introductory stuff but by all means we'll put a bunch of other links in the in

the show notes where you can get the full straight into your veins version of

their thesis including at their own website which is the coddling dot com

the coddling the coddling okay so that said why don't you and broad

restaurants start where you think makes the most sense to lay out the thesis

and whoever goes first just say who you are oh sure my name is Greg Lukyanov and

I'm gonna start just by saying that the origins of the book go back really to

2013-2014 I'd been working on campuses defending free speech and

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