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The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

Episode 63: Osmosis β€” with Wilfred Reilly

The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast

National Review

News, Politics, Music, Arts, Books, Music History

5 β€’ 1000 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 13 June 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

On episode 63, Charles talks to Wilfred Reilly about his new book, 'Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me: Debunking the False Narratives Defining America's School Curricula.' Among the topics they discuss are: Who is this 'liberal teacher'? Why does Wilfred feel a need to argue about this? Are the people who tell these lies aware that they are doing it? What lies do conservative teachers tell? Is the problem fixable?

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode.

0:07.0

Welcome to episode 63 of the Charles C.W. Cook podcast. I am elated to report that since I last spoke to you, this podcast has been blessed with another review from our old friend Boiling Rug.

0:41.6

He's back.

0:43.3

The Rugster.

0:44.9

He's with us once again.

0:46.6

Tuning in every week, the better to tell me how much he loathes the show.

0:53.1

And to show me how poor his listening comprehension really is.

0:58.9

I wanted to accompany this wonderful news with an excerpt from Handel's Messiah, but I don't have

1:06.2

one that's out of copyright, so you'll just have to imagine it, perhaps sung to the words, boiling rug.

1:14.8

My guest today is Wilfred Riley. He's an associate professor of political science at Kentucky State.

1:22.9

He's a frequent contributor to National Review, and he's the author of a new book titled Lies, My Liberal

1:30.5

Teacher Told Me. Wilfred Riley, welcome to the Charles C.W. Cook podcast. Great to be here.

1:39.0

All right, so you've just written a book. I believe it is out today, Wednesday, June 12th. And the title of the book

1:50.2

is Lies My Liberal Teacher Told Me. Let's start right from the beginning. Who in the context of this book is your liberal teacher? Who is telling these

2:04.6

lies? Who told you these lies? Who do we need to stop telling these lies? Well, I think that

2:11.5

your liberal teacher is a somewhat stereotyped figure that's very common in secondary and post-secondary education.

2:21.3

I'm actually responding to an archetype that's been drawn up by about 12, I'd say, previous authors.

2:29.3

So there's actually a very famous book called Lies My Teacher Told Me, came out in about 1995, that

2:37.2

argues that the American curriculum is full of, I think the term that was used as historical

2:41.9

jingoism that's designed to make the West seem better than it was. And this is one of a couple of books along these lines at the least.

2:53.5

I mean, so, you know, moving on from that, you have that old Marxist Howard Zins, a people's history of the USA.

3:03.0

You have a bury my heart at Wounded Knee, a Native American history of the United States.

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