Episode 63 - Jelani Cobb
Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso
Higher Ground
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 17 July 2017
⏱️ 94 minutes
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Summary
Jelani Cobb has a clarity about his life and what he intends to do with it--combine journalism and history. Known for his writing on America and its relationship to race, Jelani's work is crucial to understanding America in its past and present self. Throughout this conversation Jelani's clarity on who he is and what he wanted to do is apparent. In this conversation he and Sam talk about his dreams, family life (4:00), working with David Carr (45:30), and the modern political climate (1:07:35). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Music for the show is by Dylan Peck. Original illustrations by Krishna Shenoi: www.krishnabalashenoi.com. Learn more about Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso at www.talkeasypod.com
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin |
| 0:09.0 | Hey, this is Sam. |
| 0:10.0 | If you enjoy our interviews with writers and artists on Talk Easy, then I'd recommend checking |
| 0:14.8 | out the podcast Missing Pages. Hosted by acclaimed literary critic and author Beth Ann Patrick, |
| 0:21.5 | Missing Pages investigates the biggest hot button topics in the book world today |
| 0:26.4 | with the help of special guests like New York Times Best-Selling author Jody Pekle |
| 0:31.3 | and publisher weeklies Jim Miliet. |
| 0:33.8 | Produced by the people at the Podglamaret, |
| 0:36.1 | Missing Pages explores everything from the insta frame of Colleen Hoover |
| 0:40.3 | to the rise of book bands across America to the lucrative culture of non-fiction ghost writing. |
| 0:46.0 | As both the Washington Post and the Guardian praise, |
| 0:49.0 | missing pages is a must listen. |
| 0:52.0 | So if you'd like to check it out, you can follow missing pages on |
| 0:55.0 | Apple Podcast or wherever you like to listen. One of the more important things I think for writers, especially for young writers is to not let what you already know get in the way of what you need to learn. |
| 1:16.0 | And so to remain, like having it all figured out is a terrible position for a writer to be in, you know, because one, it's not true, it can't be true, and two, you don't know that it's not true, which makes you doubly vulnerable, you know, or poorly positioned. |
| 1:36.0 | And so the kind of open inquiring position is much more valuable for writers than the knowledgeable sage, you know, let me hold forth a position. That was Jollani Cobb. I'm San Francisco So. This is talk easy. |
| 1:57.0 | I'm San Francisco. This is Talk Easy. |
| 2:02.0 | Welcome to the show. Oh, I first discovered the writing of Johnny Cobb through death. On March 21st, 2012, |
| 2:37.0 | Jellani penned an article for the New Yorker titled Trey von Martin and the |
| 2:41.3 | parameters of Hope. |
| 2:43.4 | The piece was published less than a month after the 17-year-old was shot in the back by George Zimmerman. |
| 2:49.9 | We remember this murder almost as much as the trial that followed it, a different kind of crime. |
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