Welcome back to Tiny Seed Tales. This is the penultimate episode of season three, where we meet

Tony's co-founder. I hope you've been enjoying this season so far. If you like it, it'd be awesome

if you could reach out to me on Twitter at Rob Walling at Startups Pod. And let me know if you'd like

a fourth season. At this point, I have not started recording one, and I am looking to hear if there's

interest in hearing more stories like this. And with that, let's dive into this episode

of Tiny Seatales. We're pretty intentional about our interview process. Come off disorganized,

and you come off like, you don't know what you're doing, and you're just like roping in random

people here and there, and you're not setting up the right expectations, it can look really bad, especially a very, very good candidate can sniff that out.

Welcome back to Tiny Seatales, a series where I follow a founder through their

struggles, victories, and failures as they build their startup. I'm your host, Rob Walling. I'm a serial

entrepreneur and co-founder of Tiny Seed, the first startup accelerator designed for bootstrappers.

So far this season, I've been talking to Tony Chan of Cloud Forecast. Today will be joined by a new

voice. So Tony, this week, you brought a friend

with you. Would you like to introduce the third person here on the pod? Yeah, I had to drag and

convince Francois, my technical co-founder, to join us. So he is on the line, and I think it'll be

great to get his perspective on how things are going since

you've heard from me the last four episodes. And we keep hearing you mention this co-founder

by name, finally. So he exists. He's not fake. He actually exists. Yeah, he's my French counterpart

and my co-founder the last three years. And I've known Francois since 2011. So we've

been working together for quite some time. Francois, how's it going? Hi, everybody. Yeah, it's been 10

years since Tony and I know each other, which is crazy. How did you meet? We both work at the same

startup. He was the director of customer success, and he was kind of doing everything,

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