So now we're going back now we're going back to wig out on the wig out tour right how how was it like

People showing up to those shows were they big cities yes small towns know and were they people bombed on the sound of the new no

because at that point it was it wasn't such a far step yeah right it wasn't such a far step. It wasn't as big of a leap. So people

people could kind of like, oh that makes sense. Yeah. Now also keeping you

know I speak with people on the west coast that have net that never saw

Dave or Sean so the only dad singer they ever know is Peter Courtney. So to them it's normal.

Totally. You know. And then also it's at a time too where people are kind of more

open to ideas. Totally. And the way you learn about music is you go to the show. Yeah. And then you go, I didn't like the banner. I like the band. Totally. So people were really like kind of intrigued at the idea and then the band was really good and could deliver a show and so I think there were a lot more

thumbs-ups than thumbs-downs. Yeah yeah yeah but you're playing yes you'd in a big city, there were people,

you go into the small markets, very, very challenging,

lonely sleepy Tuesdays.

You know what I mean?

Really weird.

Did you guys tour on that record for a while yeah

we did many cycles on that one at the time we were we had the Hermosa Beach

house camp and then we had like the DC DAG house camp and so we kind of

jumped between both spaces and just zigzagged and we would do the east coast for a bit

the west coast for a bit and then do like a lap in the middle.

Yeah, you know that was like usually the summers and that's how that went and it was busy. It's very very busy. Yeah. Very busy and was that

Was that a bigger band that you were in after the sentence or the same kind of level of back then?

I'm gonna go with it's about the same level. Yeah, maybe the same level. Yeah, maybe the same level. Yeah, maybe the same level. Maybe the same level like maybe the same. I don't know they're

there that's so weird because sometimes you go into a market like you let's say like DAG would do better in Boston than

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