Welcome everybody to Crystal Kyland Friends.

We have an interesting podcast coming up today.

We're going to be talking about what's the name of the book again.

It's a phenomenal book.

It's Virtue Horders, the case against the professional managerial class by Catherine

Lu.

Yeah.

It's a really interesting topic.

You know, there are some disagreements, but that even makes it more interesting and

more fun when you talk about that.

But before we get into the interview, I mean, we're recording this on Thursday.

And so last night was when we just got the news that Russia launched a full scale invasion

of Ukraine now, by the way, I just, I need to get this out of my chest because I feel

like this is super important.

They had already invaded Ukraine.

Like I see a lot of weird disagreements on this on Twitter and it's like, what are

you guys talking about?

No, they had already invaded Ukraine.

Putin had already done an hour long speech where he announced a peacekeeping mission in

an area, you know, in the breakaway independent republics that he just declared a breakaway

independent republics.

They're not really that.

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