On this episode of Neutral, my guest today would much rather talk about beekeeping than politics.

Befitting a woman for whom faith, family and community are the central tenants of life.

Being a political spouse can upend anyone's best-laid plans, and her on-for-seeing career

as wife of a congressman, governor, and vice president has been filled with both joy

and unexpected changes. In her new book, when it's your turn to serve, experiencing God's grace

in his calling for your life, she shares heartwarming and relatable stories about being thrust

into the role of leader and how she tackled the unpredictable places to which God called her.

I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Karen Pence. She's a former congressional spouse,

First Lady of Indiana, Second Lady of the United States. She worked as a school teacher from

more than 30 years. She's the mother of three married children, a grand mother, and I have to say

that Clinton, I regard her as a personal friend. In somebody with whom we've shared very happy

moments, we have the greatest fondness for both she and her husband, vice president Pence.

Karen, welcome. Thank you for joining me on Newt's World.

Well, Newt, thank you so much for having me on and talking about the book.

I'm really curious because I think you have placed this book in a very important way,

centered around God and God's impact. Could you just share with us a little bit how your faith grew

in your own life and how in the early years it came to really matter?

I wanted this book to be uplifting. I wanted it to be encouraging to the reader. There's so many

negative books out there right now, and I really wanted to talk about the difference that we were

able to make in the First Lady's office and the Second Lady's office. But I did want to give a

little background. I mean, it's not a memoir, but I did want to give a little background

into maybe how my faith started and how it grew so that the reader kind of understands where I'm

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