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The Running Public

Episode 615: Drug Use Among Amateurs

The Running Public

Kirk Dewindt & Brakken Kraker

Health & Fitness, Sports, Fitness, Sports:running, Running

4.9704 Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

With the rise of hormone therapy and anti-aging medical practices, how should amateur athletes be thinking about drug use?

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the running public with Brack and Crocker and Kirk DeWint.

0:13.3

Whether you are a brand new runner or you already have a great mustache.

0:16.6

We're here to help you increase your running knowledge and present it at a practical level.

0:20.7

This is the running public.

0:30.5

When you're ready to take your training or racing to the next level, go to the running public.

0:36.0

We have both monthly subscription training plans,

0:39.5

1999 a month, and Bracken and I both offer one-on-one customized coaching. Again, go to

0:45.3

the running public.com and check out our offerings. Drugs, drugs, drugs. Or not?

0:51.5

I have access, Kirk. I work in high school though uh what what kind of drugs though are

0:57.0

you talking about performance enhancing or performance decreasing uh mood enhancing kirk oh mood enhancing

1:03.6

but that's not what we're here to talk about is it kind of i mean not not here to talk about that

1:09.8

so outside of national and world championships,

1:14.0

we don't really do reaction shows. And even sometimes we miss those. So yeah, we rarely do.

1:20.3

This is going to be as close as we get to a reaction show. And it's a hot button topic,

1:24.6

but this isn't a hot take episode. It might be.

1:28.6

I don't think we're going to have, I mean, we might have some takes,

1:30.7

but this is less about picking aside and more about starting the,

1:35.3

starting a conversation with at least our listeners about how to go about thinking about this.

1:40.8

So that's really vague.

1:42.8

Well, it won't be as much anymore.

1:44.3

But like Bracken, before hitting record, said we should talk about Cam Haines.

1:51.3

And I was like, that is a sentence I would have never thought would come out of your mouth for many reasons.

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