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the running public.com and check out our offerings. Drugs, drugs, drugs. Or not?

I have access, Kirk. I work in high school though uh what what kind of drugs though are

you talking about performance enhancing or performance decreasing uh mood enhancing kirk oh mood enhancing

but that's not what we're here to talk about is it kind of i mean not not here to talk about that

so outside of national and world championships,

we don't really do reaction shows. And even sometimes we miss those. So yeah, we rarely do.

This is going to be as close as we get to a reaction show. And it's a hot button topic,

but this isn't a hot take episode. It might be.

I don't think we're going to have, I mean, we might have some takes,

but this is less about picking aside and more about starting the,

starting a conversation with at least our listeners about how to go about thinking about this.

So that's really vague.

Well, it won't be as much anymore.

But like Bracken, before hitting record, said we should talk about Cam Haines.

And I was like, that is a sentence I would have never thought would come out of your mouth for many reasons.

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