and Claudin Gay steps down and Nicki Halee tries to live down her slavery answer. We'll discuss all

this and more on this edition of the

editors I'm rich Lowry I'm joined as always by the right honorable Charles c.

Kewa knowa Rothman and the sage of authenticity woods. Jim Garrity you are of course

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So Jim Garrity, it finally happened this grand edifice of

Claudine Gay, this scholarly giant who has such an enormous contribution that she has made to the institution of

Harvard finally falls after yet another

instance of plagiarism

of plagiarism she has not

less than 50 yeah so she is uh she's not written a book know, all of us are written books,

and if we probably had more time,

we could even make our books, you know, works of scholarship.

She hasn't.

I think she's written what, like 11 scholarly articles,

nothing new in them in her field and it turns out she copied a lot of

verbiage and clearly the intention of Harvard was just to to gut this out there are a lot of soundings, wow, this is such so

terrible what's happening to her. She's being targeted by these nasty right-wingers and

then over the weekend you had another tranche of instances of plagiarism and obviously

became too much and Claudine Gay is on a way out. What do you make of it? Well let me begin by saying if you're a

listener out there whose instinct is I don't care about Harvard University and who

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