Welcome to a new roadblock.

It's fake democracy.

Welcome to episode 61 of the cake watch podcast with me, Chris Kendall.

I'm an EU official, Eurocrat, working for the EU, very pissed off about Brexit and recording this in a very strictly personal capacity. And with me is...

I'm Steve Bullock. I'm an ex-negotiator for the UK in the EU. And I'm also recording

this in a professional. No, personal. Not professional capacity. Personal capacity. You've got to get

these things right, haven't you? You've got to get these disclaimers right. You know, I could introduce myself now by calling myself a negotiator for

the year because I'm, you know, I changed job in the summer and I've gone from doing a more

of sort of backroom job to doing some proper negotiations now. It's great fun. It's really

good to be back doing it.

Cool.

I mean, we'll talk a bit more about that, but...

Yeah.

I prefer it when you introduce the podcast, Steve,

because you always come up with a funny little tagline.

Funny in inverted commas, though.

I always come up with a tagline, but I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say.

It's nice. It's like the thing that you do.

I had a bit of a, I had a bit of a panic, a sort of middle-aged dad panic this week.

Because I referred to a thread as a quality thread and then had this sudden, oh my God,

does anybody still refer to things

as quality?

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