Episode 607 - Growing a Business: Cash Flow, Debt & Relationships
The How of Business - How to start, run, grow and exit a small business.
Henry Lopez, Levante Business Group
4.7 • 522 Ratings
🗓️ 11 May 2026
⏱️ 16 minutes
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Summary
Grow a healthier business by managing cash flow, using debt strategically, and building strong business relationships.
Show Notes Page: https://www.thehowofbusiness.com/607-growing-a-small-business/
Growing a business requires far more than simply increasing sales. It demands financial discipline, smart decision-making, and strong relationships.
In Part 2 of this entrepreneurial roundtable series, Henry Lopez is joined again by Giuseppe Grammatico, Rocky Lalvani, and David Barnett for a practical conversation about what it really takes to grow a small business.
The discussion begins with one of the most important topics for entrepreneurs: cash flow management. Rocky explains the principles behind the Profit First system, created by Mike Michalowicz, and why many business owners fail to recognize financial problems until it's too late. They also discuss why relying only on bank balances can create dangerous blind spots and how cash flow systems can provide early warning signs when something in the business model is broken.
The conversation then shifts into debt and leverage. The panel explores the difference between using debt strategically to fund profitable growth versus using debt to cover operational problems or poor financial management. David shares examples of how business owners can misuse lines of credit and why understanding the purpose behind borrowing is critical to long-term business health.
Finally, the group discusses the importance of relationship building and networking for business growth. Henry shares why getting out into the community, identifying referral partners, and building meaningful connections remain essential growth strategies for local and service-based businesses.
This episode is packed with practical advice for entrepreneurs who want to build a stronger and more sustainable business.
This episode is hosted by Henry Lopez. The How of Business podcast focuses on helping you start, run, grow and exit your small business. The How of Business is a top-rated podcast for small business owners and entrepreneurs. Find the best podcast, small business coaching, resources and trusted service partners for small business owners and entrepreneurs at our website https://TheHowOfBusiness.com
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the How of Business with your host, Henry Lopez, the podcast that helps you start, |
| 0:05.9 | run, and grow your small business. And now, here is your host. |
| 0:13.2 | Welcome to the How of Business podcast. This is Henry Lopez. And welcome back to this special |
| 0:17.8 | roundtable series about business ownership. On part one, which I previously released, we talk about how to find the right business. |
| 0:24.9 | And now in this part two, we shift our focus to one of the biggest challenges business owners face after you get started, which is to how to actually grow your business. |
| 0:33.2 | And we'll focus it on a few specific areas related to that. |
| 0:36.5 | Joining me again on this conversation are Giuseppe Gramatical, the franchise guide, |
| 0:40.8 | Rocky Lalvani of the Profit Answer Man podcast, and David Barnett, a small business and acquisition expert and author. |
| 0:47.5 | And on this episode again, we discuss what it really takes to grow a healthy business, |
| 0:51.8 | including cash flow systems, leadership, scaling challenges, |
| 0:55.3 | and the mindset shifts that are required as your business grows. |
| 1:00.2 | Thanks for joining us today. We're going to kick it off today with phase number two of the |
| 1:04.5 | entrepreneurial journey. We talked about finding a business on the last episode. And today, |
| 1:08.8 | we're going to talk about cash flow management, |
| 1:16.9 | coaching, and strategy. So talk about profit first and cash flow management. I think that's a super important topic. Profit first is a book by Mike McAllewitt. He's a serial entrepreneur. He wrote |
| 1:24.1 | the book because he essentially went bankrupt. Even after having multiple seven-figure businesses, right, that is not outside the ordinary. |
| 1:32.5 | It is really nothing more than a cash flow management system. |
| 1:36.7 | So when you bought the business, you said you were going to make money. |
| 1:39.5 | Well, great. |
| 1:40.3 | Show me the money, right? |
| 1:41.4 | That's the line. |
| 1:42.3 | And so what profit first does is whenever you get |
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