Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.

For this podcast, I'm going to talk solo about gender dysphoria and transgender.

And the audience for this podcast, well, is any of you that experienced gender dysphoria,

as well as any of you that are looking to support people that experience gender dysphoria?

That might be parents, friends, local leaders. I said a prayer before I started and I've been thinking about this podcast

for the last week and felt impressed to do this. And my hope is that this podcast will bring

us together on this space in a better way. This podcast is supportive of the church, the church's

teachings, and also supportive of transgender people in their lived experience.

So I'd like to start with first, what is gender dysphoria?

And the best way I can describe this is how it was described to me in episode 46 that I wrote in my book.

I'll reference a little bit from the first book I wrote.

It's called Listen, Learn, and Love, Embracing LGBTQ Latter-day Saints.

Chapter 8 is about transgender Latter-day Saints.

All the proceeds from that book are donated to charity, so everything

I do is a self-funded labor of love. But I love this definition, and I'll read this,

because it helped me to understand why someone feels impressed to transition.

And have you ever gotten car sick?

Car sickness like other forms of motion sickness occurs when your inner ears and your eyes disagree about whether you're moving.

Gender dysphoria is like that, awful, nauseated, headache-inducing wrongness from the disagreement of your mind

and body, and you feel it every time you wear the wrong clothes, or call the wrong pronouns,

or hear your own voice, or look, or someone looks at you and sees something you aren't.

Every time you look in the mirror, every time you think about yourself,

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