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Weird Studies

Episode 60: Space is the Place: On Sun Ra, Gnosticism, and the Tarot

Weird Studies

Phil Ford and J. F. Martel

Society & Culture, Arts, Philosophy

4.8688 Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2019

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Somebody once said, "No prophet is welcome in his own country." Whether this was true in the case of jazz musician and composer Sun Ra depends on whom you ask. With most, the dictum probably bears out. But there are those who can make out certain patterns in Ra's life and work, patterns that place him among the true mystics and prophets. Of course, these people already believe in mysticism and prophecy, but Sun Ra's total devotion to his myth does not leave much wiggle room on this front. He is asking us to choose: believe or disbelieve. And if you go with disbelief, you'll need to explain the sustained coherence and lucidity of his message, and the transformative power of his music. In this episode, Phil and JF take a look at Sun Ra's unforgettable film Space is the Place, interpreting it as a document in the history of esotericism, using gnostic thought and the tarotology as instruments to bring some of his secrets to light. REFERENCES Sun Ra, Space is the Place Sun Ra: Brother from Another Planet_ Deleuze and Guattari, A Thousand Plateaus and [Kafka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority(philosophy))_ (for the concept of minority) Antoine Faivre, French historian of esotericism Michel Foucault, The Order of Things: An Archaeology of the Human Sciences Eliphas Lévi, French occultist Edward O. Bland (director) The Cry of Jazz Mircea Eliade, The Myth of the Eternal Return, or, Cosmos and History Ingmar Bergman, The Seventh Seal Stanley Kubrick, Dr Strangelove, or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb Aleister Crowley, Magick in Theory and Practice Jackson Lears, Something for Nothing: Luck in America Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Spectrevision Radio

0:02.0

Welcome to Weird Studies, an arts and philosophy podcast with hosts Phil Ford and J.F. Martel.

0:23.3

For more episodes or to support the podcast, go to weirdst. I'm J.F. Martel.

0:53.1

Today we're discussing the 1974 science fiction Afro-Futurist epic,

0:58.5

Space is the Place, directed by John Coney and written by Joshua Smith and Sun Ra.

1:04.7

Sun Ra may have come last on that list, but he comes first in the order of being, as far as this film is concerned.

1:11.8

You could easily argue that space as a place is Sun Ra.

1:16.0

If you're not familiar with Sun Ra the man or Sun Ra the movie, don't worry.

1:19.7

Phil and I do a pretty good job of giving you the basics early on in the episode.

1:24.1

For now, I'll just say that in this world, Sun Ra took the form of a jazz musician and composer.

1:30.5

But in the other world, the other world to which his music and utterances continually refer,

1:36.2

he was an adept, maybe even an effect, of what he called the mathematics of a greater universe.

1:43.7

Sun Ra was a modern-day Pythagoras, a genuine mystic

1:47.5

for whom number, meter, and tone were qualities, not quantities. At the same time, he hated

1:54.2

the very notion of a, quote, positive, absolute reality, that hubristic modern conceit that the real could be known.

2:03.3

He saw his work as an alchemical operation, an attempt to transmolecularize, his term,

2:09.0

human consciousness, and usher in a time after time, a new world that would cancel out the

2:14.6

injustice and oppression of this one.

2:22.8

Sun Ra was a devotee of mystery, a term which for him had only positive value.

2:28.2

Change your time to the unknown factor, he tells his audience at the end of the film.

2:30.4

The unknown is immeasurable.

2:32.3

The unknown is eternal.

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