Episode 6: The Pattern

The Catch and Kill Podcast with Ronan Farrow

Pineapple Street Studios

News, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.8 • 10.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2020

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

"If you want to spend time with me, whatever, I will mentor you, teach you, whatever. But you have to, you know, relax with me," Harvey Weinstein says in never-before-heard tape from a police sting operation. "Don't be foolish," he warns her. "If you don’t trust me then we have no reason to do anything and you will lose big opportunities." Through that newly unearthed recording and testimonials from women who encountered Weinstein across the decades, this episode examines his pattern of dangling promises of career advancement—promises that could quickly turn into traps. It explores how that pattern could play a role in Weinstein's criminal trials in New York and Los Angeles. And it looks at the women who fought back and broke the cycle. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, I know we've done a little warning before every episode,
0:03.7	but just a heads up this week's story delves deeper into a specific account of sexual violence.
0:09.0	If that's something that's upsetting to you, please take care while you're listening.
0:15.0	How are you?
0:16.0	I'm just here to write a nice meeting.
0:19.0	The audio you're hearing has never been made public before.
0:22.0	Is it right?
0:23.0	Perfect.
0:24.0	Talking.
0:24.5	If you've listened to episode three of this podcast, you know about the model Umbra Gutierrez.
0:29.5	You know about the police sting operation she participated in.
0:32.5	And you know about the two minutes of audio she helped me release of Harvey Weinstein admitting he'd grabbed her breasts and saying, I'm used to that.
0:40.5	There's regular coffee needs in these very...
0:42.5	Perfect.
0:42.5	Small.
0:43.5	But the recordings Umbra made, they're actually more than 25 minutes long.
0:44.5	And the parts you haven't heard, the parts before and after that apparent confession,
0:48.5	reveal a lot about Weinstein and the tactics he's been accused of using
0:53.5	across decades of alleged misconduct.
0:57.5	This week, Umbra agreed to let us broadcast those parts for the first time.
1:00.5	So I'm glad you went because you know I made this a movie many years ago with Johnny Depp and Kate Winslet.
1:11.5	Yeah.
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