Episode 6: The Future Isn't Real
Shell Game
Kaleidoscope
5.0 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 13 August 2024
⏱️ 53 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, this is Evan. Hi, this is Stephanie. Nice to meet you, Stephanie. As you probably know, I'll be recording our conversation for a podcast. Is that all right with you? |
| 0:12.3 | Yeah, go ahead. From the beginning of this experiment, I've been exploring my personal feelings about AI and voice clones and voice |
| 0:22.5 | agents. And sometimes just exploring my feelings, period. But as a journalist, I'm used to gathering |
| 0:28.8 | a wider range of views, too. I'd gotten some sense of the ambient anxiety around AI from |
| 0:34.3 | therapists and startup founders and people I worked with. But what about the general |
| 0:39.0 | public? So a couple months ago, I put out a request for anyone to call me at a listed phone |
| 0:44.8 | number to answer a few questions for me about how they felt about AI. The number forwarded to one of |
| 0:50.4 | my VAPI numbers. So of course, it would be my AI voice agent asking the questions. |
| 0:56.7 | Hi. Well, I'm glad we could connect. So, Stephanie, have you had much personal interaction with AI? |
| 1:03.8 | Um, you know, I'm on Twitter, so I'm assuming that I see things on Twitter that are generated. |
| 1:12.3 | I'm 57, so I have one foot in the modern technology and then one foot back in the past where there were four channels or whatnot. |
| 1:20.6 | So I'm sure I probably interacted with that AI that I had no idea was AI. |
| 1:25.8 | You know what I mean? |
| 1:27.7 | The AI asked people about their concerns, and there were plenty of practical ones. |
| 1:32.8 | Deepfakes in politics, cheating in schools, hallucinations. |
| 1:37.3 | Some people, of course, worried it was coming for their jobs, or just human creativity |
| 1:41.5 | in general. |
| 1:42.7 | Like, Isaiah. |
| 1:44.0 | How do you feel about AI's potential in the legal field? |
| 1:47.9 | Um, I would hope that I didn't just, like, go into hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt |
| 1:55.4 | and spend all this time and energy, and I'm currently studying for the bar, uh, to get into a job that could be done by a robot. |
| 2:04.5 | And not only like to do with being a lawyer, but like anything, like stories, novelists or playwrights. |
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