Episode 6: The Defence

Escaping NXIVM

CBC

True Crime

4.7 • 665 Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2018

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Josh speaks to one of Keith Raniere's lawyers, Marc Agnifilo, and hears a different point of view on NXIVM and DOS.

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0:36.0	Can I get you to start off by just by introducing yourself, what's your name and your role in this specific case?
0:41.8	Sure. My name is Mark Agnifalo. I'm the lead attorney for Keith Riniere. I've been a lawyer for 28 years. My practice is based in Manhattan, but this is a case out of Brooklyn.
0:54.4	It's scheduled to go to trial this coming January.
0:56.4	Can I ask you why you agreed to do this interview?
0:59.5	I just thought that it's very easy in matters like this to have everyone talking about
1:08.6	one viewpoint and not another viewpoint. I mean, I think that, you know,
1:12.5	the government's viewpoint is very clear. I think it's errant and I think it's not the whole
1:17.7	picture, but it's very clear that this is essentially, you know, a sex cult and that there's
1:23.6	sex trafficking. And my concern in matters like this is that there is another viewpoint. I'm Josh Block. This is Escaping Nexium from CBC Podcasts on cover.
1:49.2	Chapter 6. The Defense
1:51.7	Since the start of this investigation, my questions for Keith have been piling up.
2:05.6	I've wanted to hear his perspective on all kinds of things.
2:08.6	What does he think of the allegation that he's the head of a cult?
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