Episode 595: Autumn McAlpin, New Book, LDS Mother of a Gay Son

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

My friend Autumn McAlpin (married mother of 5) shares the story of her 17-year-old son, Gavin, walking into her bedroom at 3:00 am telling her and her husband and he that “he is gay, leaving the church, and really struggling with depression… like, really.” A lot has happened since that night two and a half years ago—which Autumn shares on the podcast and in her new book to support Gavin. It is a beautiful and powerful family love story. Autumn, a noted author and filmmaker, decided to write a book about their experience. In November 2022, that book, But Jesus: A Conversation, was published by Pink Umbrella Books with Gavin’s permission (see below for Amazon book link). Autumn talks about the book in the podcast, and all proceeds from sales will be donated to life-saving therapy programs for LGBTQ+ at Encircle and Flourish Therapy. I encourage everyone to listen to this podcast and read Autumn’s book. I have read it—it is a powerful family story of how we can do better so support families with LGBTQ members. I wish I had read a book like this decades ago. Autumn is also involved with Lift & Love, where she writes most of the IG family profile stories (link below). I encourage you to check out Lift & Love. Thank you for being on the podcast Autumn. I was deeply moved hearing your story. I encourage everyone to read Autumn’s impactful book. Links: Autumn’s book called “But Jesus: A Conversation”: https://www.amazon.com/But-Jesus-Conversation-Autumn-McAlpin/dp/194959825X Lift and Love: https://www.liftandlove.org/

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0:00.0	Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love, hosted by Richard Osler.
0:09.3	Joining me via Zoom from our home in Southern California is my friend Autumn, Mick Alpin.
0:15.1	Welcome to the podcast, Autumn.
0:17.5	Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be on.
0:20.4	Will you spell your last name and pronounce it for us?
0:24.7	Absolutely.
0:25.4	It's McAlpin.
0:26.7	Without an E and without an H.
0:28.1	People like to have those, but it's M-C-A-L-P-I-N.
0:32.2	And I've really been looking forward to this episode.
0:36.8	Autumn's going to share her story of being a parent to a gay son, Gavin, and we'll share that story.
0:44.1	She's also now written a book that's out, and we'll link to it in the show notes.
0:48.9	It's called But Jesus, a conversation with beautiful artwork, and she'll talk about who's the artist is and how
0:55.4	that came about. But it's a really tender podcast. As I've read this book, I usually don't read
1:02.0	books. I just don't have time before an author's on the podcast, but I really wanted to read
1:07.4	Autumn's book, and it's moving. It's powerful. There's some really difficult
1:11.6	things that occurred in their family and with their wonderful gay son. And our purpose in sharing
1:17.1	that is to help us do better so that some of the painful experiences that have occurred, we can
1:22.8	learn not to have those painful experiences and do better as we know better. So our joint prayers,
1:29.0	this podcast will help you. If you're a parent with an LGBT child, this podcast will help
1:36.1	you a leader and any circumstances will help you. And if you're LGBTQ, I think our joint prayers, this podcast will help you too, as you hear principles and perspectives and thoughts to help you navigate your life in a way that is helpful to you.
1:55.4	Is that okay for an introduction, Autumn?
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