Hello and welcome to the worst bestsellers, where we read about investigating without the internet so you don't have to.

I'm Renata.

And I'm Kate.

And for this episode, we read A is for

Alibi by Sue Grafton. Joining us to discuss this long-lived mystery series is Scientist and

Champagne Officioado Sarah. Hello. Hello. Thanks for having me back. Yes, welcome back.

You might remember Sarah from discussing Inferno with us, the Dan Brown book.

And also R.L. Stein with goosebumps and Fear Street.

While Renata was in her sadness case.

I was like, I don't remember that.

All right, so this book, yeah, for me, Sue Grafton is most notable for two reasons.

One of which is around the time I had my first public library job is when W came out.

And W is called W.

And so I had so many people who would like call or come up to the house and be like, oh, do you

have the newest Sue Grafton?

What is it?

And I had to get to say W is for wasted, which I thought was hilarious.

And then also my grandma loved these books.

And so I'm a little like, are these even worst best sellers?

Because like my grandma was a

classy lady and she read them. So in my mind, they were like, I don't know, I don't think

of them as like trashy. I think of them as just like my grandma books. I, uh, my association

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