Hello, and thank you for listening to the history of World War II podcast, episode

581.

For Better or Ill, the hosts of the Warrior Next Door podcast, once again, graces with their presence.

And they bring some clips where they have interviewed veterans from World War II.

Of course, the real heroes of all the story.

So Ryan Fairfield, Tony Lupo, thank you again for coming on the show.

Thank you, Ray.

Yeah, it's becoming like a holiday tradition for us.

Every November we get together and absorb copious amounts of your abuse while we,

while we, like, wedge our way onto your show.

It's fantastic.

Abuse, I think the word you're searching for is charm, but I could be wrong.

I don't know.

No, you're right.

The scissors tradition, tradition though because it's

like you know it's like you have um your turkey uh dinner whatever you feel bloated and you want to die

so no this is exactly like that experience no is this like your is this your third fourth it's our

fourth fourth this is our fourth anniversary of being on your fine podcast.

I mean, we mean that seriously.

To be on the most listened to World War II podcast in the world is freaking quite an honor.

And that's why we accept all the abuse.

And we also accept the abuse because it's generally true. And we just have to own it. Yeah, you can't get angry. There's no reason to run from it. It's like, well, yeah, Ray's right. Tony abuses me and I abuse Tony, but we never listen to each other. Then we can do it. To have a third party tell us, it kind of hits a little harder. It's a reinforcing mechanism. Exactly. You can't get angry if it's accurate. That's always been my motto. You know what I'm saying? Oh, and speaking of what they got, merchandise now. You get the mug. That's beautiful. And I see a PO underneath the shirt there. I see a warrior. Oh, does that fit okay? I see it's a, yeah, it's tight. Look at that. It's sweet. Look at the pecks on that guy. Yeah. So I had to do push-ups all the time. What do you bench in now, right? What do you benching now, right? I don't actually bench. I just do push-ups. Yeah, let's go with, let's go with that. Or your kids on your back while you're doing it. You clap when you. Yeah. When they were younger, it was fun and cute. And now it actually hurts. So, because they're big. Yeah. So before, I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, I could, just for listeners who maybe haven't, you know, heard this episode before,

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