Episode 58: The Pelicot Trial with Manon Garcia
In Bed With The Right
Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan
4.8 • 662 Ratings
🗓️ 18 February 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
TW: This episode is almost entirely about a horrifying case of sustained and organized rape.
On December 19, 2024 a court in Avignon, France convicted Dominique Pelicot and 50 other men of rape. It was the conclusion to a spectacular case and trial that galvanized (parts of) France. The victim, Gisèle Pelicot, chose to allow the trial to be public, flipping the script on the way France had thus far metabolized #MeToo: "shame", as Gisèle Pelicot put it, "has changed sides." Philosopher Manon Garcia attended the proceedings in Avignon, and now speaks with Moira and Adrian about what the case says about patriarchy, misogyny, masculinity and collective memory.
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| 0:00.0 | I really at times had the feeling that I was going crazy. |
| 0:04.0 | So I put as a constraint on myself that I needed to write it live. |
| 0:09.0 | And I ended up sending the manuscript four days after the end of the trial. |
| 0:13.0 | Wow. |
| 0:14.0 | That's an insanely productive work ethic that I'm very impressed by and a little intimidated. |
| 0:19.0 | Yes, but also it was the condition of my survival. |
| 0:27.7 | Hello, I'm Adrienne Dob. |
| 0:29.3 | And I'm Weverdonaghan. |
| 0:30.3 | Whether we like it or not, we're in bed with the right. |
| 0:35.3 | So, Adrian, today we are going to be talking about a sensational and really quite disturbing |
| 0:43.3 | trial in France, the trial of the attackers of Giselle Pelico. |
| 0:50.0 | Before we get started, just a very obvious, gigantic trigger warning. |
| 0:54.4 | This one really deserves it. |
| 0:56.2 | I think we're going to discuss some things that you may not be comfortable with, |
| 1:00.0 | in which case, absolutely okay to skip this episode and listen to our next one, |
| 1:03.8 | or wait until you find yourself on the right frame of mind for this. |
| 1:07.5 | If you want to Google the case all beforehand to decide what your exact tolerance level is, we totally understand. Just take care of yourselves. So Adrian, how much do you know |
| 1:16.1 | about this? I followed it pretty closely, but it's just such a staggering trial and at such a |
| 1:22.7 | staggering scale that I wouldn't be shocked to find out that there are entire dimensions of this that I didn't |
| 1:28.9 | pick up on. I feel like this was covered a lot more in the European press than in the Anglophone |
| 1:34.1 | press. I know the Guardian has done some very, very good work on it, but by and large, I don't |
| 1:38.6 | remember seeing it that frequently in the New York Times and places like that. So I'm sure that |
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