Welcome to Our Henhouse. This is Marianne Sullivan, and this is Jasmine Singer.

We're so thrilled that you joined us this week.

Jasmine's going to be speaking once again with one of our favorite people, Karen Ginsburg.

And they're going to be talking about strategies for increasing the impact of animal protection

organizations and animal advocates.

So that's pretty important.

If we're close to a tipping point in this movement, and you know, on my good days, I honestly

think we might be.

This is the interview that will help us all get there.

And on this week's bonus flock segment, I will be continuing my conversation with Karen.

So as always, if you're a flock member, you will get a link to the bonus segment in your email on the Tuesday after this podcast episode goes up or you can always find it on the flock Facebook group.

And if you're not a member of the flock and you can afford it, please join us for

$10 a month at our henhouse.org slash donate. And thanks again for all who donated, as we mentioned

last week. 2020 was a huge year for us and we do feel set up for success. Thanks to you and your efforts

to help us to end the exploitation of animals.

Also, to help us all get through the pandemic, we are still doing our flock Friday Zoom calls

because the pandemic is still going on. And those are at 4 p.m. Eastern time on Fridays.

Sometimes we have guests. Sometimes we just have a chat. Sometimes we just shoot the

shit. But we always end up talking about how to shift our activism. You know, no matter what we're,

even if we're talking about food, it somehow turns into activism because that's what we try to be

all about. And we also talk about how to take care of ourselves in these tough times. Some people,

you know, if you're down and

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