Episode 573 - In Defense of Litmus Tests (w/ Natalie Wynn aka ContraPoints)
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🗓️ 7 May 2026
⏱️ 159 minutes
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Summary
Prolific YouTube video essayist, & political commentator, Natalie Wynn, returns to Bad Faith after five years to discuss her critiques of the left & backlash to said critiques. Infamous for saying the left doesn't want power, but wants to endlessly critique power, Briahna pushes Natalie on her own theory of change, and whether it is in fact, the left, that misunderstands power. The pair also discuss a growing liberal interest in "violence on the left": Is it good faith concern following the latest Trump assassination attempt, or is it a strategy to derail legitimate anger -- the likes of which lead to healthcare CEO Brian Thompson's assassination? Finally, are women lonely?
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| 0:00.0 | Would you say that we should vote for 2016, Donald Trump, because his first term was better than a second term? |
| 0:05.2 | So I joke about, like, how we would vote for Satan to stop Donald Trump. |
| 0:08.2 | There probably is a line. |
| 0:10.4 | I have yet not found it yet. |
| 0:12.3 | Of, like, what, like moral depth to which I would stoop to stop Donald Trump. |
| 0:17.6 | It's pretty low. |
| 0:19.0 | What does that mean? |
| 0:19.5 | Yeah. |
| 0:55.8 | Yeah. So I'm here with Natalie Wynn, aka ConchrePoint, who is one of the biggest and most prolific and I think most efficacious video essayists on the left in Bread Tube. I don't know if you |
| 1:04.5 | embrace that term. I condemn it. I condemn it the term bread tube. Why is that? Well, I had never |
| 1:13.0 | thought it made any sense. The phrase bread to was a reference to the conquest of bread, an anarchist book. |
| 1:18.7 | I'm not an anarchist. I don't know why this like framing has been imposed on. But, you know, |
| 1:24.7 | it is what it is. You don't get to choose these things. |
| 1:29.4 | How do you identify politically? |
| 1:34.6 | I identify as like a left liberal at this stage, as how I would describe myself. |
| 1:44.3 | I would say that I'm aligned with like the left wing of the Democratic Party, like AOC kind of politics. |
| 1:52.2 | Well, AOC, at least at one point in her life, self-described as a socialist or a democratic socialist, at least, did she not? Yes, that's right. |
| 1:53.2 | Would you define yourself that way as well? |
| 1:58.0 | I think I would at one time also have. |
| 2:00.9 | I think now I'm, I would say I'm probably more of a social Democrat. |
| 2:05.6 | But for me, my attitude towards politics is very not, well, it's very non-philosophical in a way. |
| 2:13.2 | Because I feel that I react to the situation that I'm in. |
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