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weekend has been kind of a dream come true for me because I get to spend it with John LaBelle.

That's why I would say that's a dream come true, right John?

It's a dream come true.

So I guess not to not to belabor the point but we forged

Tomahawks this weekend so my son and I got invited by John to come up here and forge some

tomahawks and then that's when everybody else got involved. So Rich,

Rich McDonald, what's your background? Oh well I my

background in work started out as being a farrier. I was a horseshoeer. When I

graduated from high school I went to a horseshoeing school down in Mississippi when I was 18.

And I did that for, well let's see, probably close to 20 years. But I started to get out of it. My back had been bothering me and I was always interested in history and muzzle loaders. I'd been shooting muzzle loaders since I was like 12 years old. I'd put together some kits and

you know hunting with them and I got into building a custom muzzle loader when I was,

I don't know, 19 or 20 or so so but over the years I would try my hand at forger and a knife or something

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