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The National Security Law Podcast

Episode 57: About that #Mehmo (Special Edition on the Nunes Memo Release)

The National Security Law Podcast

Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Courses, Politics, News, Education, Government

4.8646 Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2018

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

President Trump has declassified the Nunes Memo and it now is available to the public.  Your hosts--Professors Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck--give it a deep-dive review here in a special-edition podcast episode.  Tune in to hear them discuss: whether there are any factual claims in the memo which (*if* true) are worthy of concern (preview: they single out two); whether any such concerns extend so far as to call into doubt whether FISC should have granted an order to surveil Carter Page (preview: no); whether any such doubt extends to the larger FBI counterintelligence investigation involving Russia (preview: the #mehmo itself underscores that this investigation was well underway already); and whether FBI Director Wray should now resign (preview: your hosts disagree. Be sure to listen through to the very end, by the way; if you are a regular listener, you might be surprised by who gets most fired-up at the conclusion. Meanwhile: please spread the word about this episode, and the show more generally!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from Austin and welcome to episode 57 of the National Street Law podcast, brought to you by the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. I'm Bobby Chesney. I'm Steve Lottick.

0:22.8

Bobby, what are we doing here?

0:24.0

It is Friday afternoon.

0:25.2

We've got to have better things.

0:25.7

Oh, wait.

0:26.7

There's a reason.

0:28.5

You know we got released today.

0:33.9

The government's notice of appeal in Dover's Mattis on the transfer ban.

0:34.3

Oh, no.

0:35.4

It was much worse than that. I saw it today. They've released all the new high school

0:39.3

district alignments for football in Texas. Oh, UIL. Yes. That's why this was trending. The university

0:44.9

interscholastically, is UIL trending. UIL reallignment is trending on Twitter. That's awesome.

0:50.7

That shows you their location services are on. Indeed. Well, but it's not trending quite as much as Memo or Nuna's Memo.

0:57.3

Oh, yeah, what's the new hashtag?

0:58.6

I don't. I did, release the, I don't know.

1:01.9

How about this? Hashtag I'm spelled out. M-E-H-M-O.

1:06.0

Memo.

1:07.2

Memo.

1:07.8

I think that's our episode title.

1:10.0

Hashtag Madmo.

1:12.3

So we thought, I think, both because we actually happen to both be in the building on a Friday afternoon

1:17.0

and because hopefully we have some listeners who might be interested in our reactions.

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