Episode 564: We've forgotten that we live in our bodies with Jan Winhall, MSW
The Trauma Therapist
Guy Crawford Macpherson
4.5 • 581 Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2021
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
[CW for text below: mention of self-harming behaviors]
She began listening with non-pathologizing ears and heard shocking stories of sexual torture, and responses that confused her. Women were cutting themselves, bingeing and purging huge quantities of food, and abusing drugs and alcohol.
As she continued to listen she learned that somehow these self-harming behaviors were “helping” individuals to escape intolerable emotional states. They were shifting their mood from flooding anxiety to numbing deadness, or vice versa.
Because these behaviors were so helpful they were compulsively repeated and often became addictions. They were shifting their mood from flooding anxiety to numbing deadness, or vice versa.
Jan’s book Treating Trauma and Addiction with The Felt Sense Polyvagal Model: A Bottom Up Approach, has integrated the Polyvagal lens Theory to create a more sophisticated way of understanding emotional regulation, where addictive behavior is an embodied response to emotional dysregulation.
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| 1:25.5 | Trauma Therapist Podcast, episode 564. |
| 1:28.6 | 4. |
| 1:34.6 | All right, welcome back to the Trauma Therapist podcast. |
| 1:41.3 | My name is Guy McPherson. |
| 1:43.0 | My mission is to raise awareness of trauma and to support and inspire new trauma therapist podcast. My name is Guy McPherson. My mission is to raise the awareness of trauma |
| 1:45.1 | and to support and inspire new trauma therapist just starting out on the trauma-informed journey. |
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