Episode 561: Thais Gibson: The Four-Attachment Styles Explained + Why “Self Sabotage” Is A Myth
Habits and Hustle
Jen Cohen
4.5 • 820 Ratings
🗓️ 9 June 2026
⏱️ 83 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi guys, it's Tony Robbins. You're listening to Habits and Hustle. Crush it. Wow. Okay, what a morning today. |
| 0:10.1 | Okay, today, you guys, you don't even want to know my morning. But the good news is we have a very, very cool guest joining us today on the show. |
| 0:18.6 | Her name is Taise. I said that right. Perfect. |
| 0:22.3 | Tais, Gibson, who is certified in over 13 therapy, oh my God, 13 modalities. Wow. And you also are a PhD |
| 0:32.7 | in pastoral studies. Pastoral counseling. So I'm a- Tell me what that is. Okay. So I, my thing for sure |
| 0:41.7 | has always been where neuroscience overlaps of psychology and different spiritual teachings. So |
| 0:47.3 | pastoral counseling links back to Christianity and Christian studies. And then I've been a huge fan |
| 0:52.6 | for years of like studying Zen Buddhism and |
| 0:55.5 | mindfulness and all these different things. And they played such a huge role in my own life that I really |
| 0:59.9 | sought to understand, okay, if I started on that path and that was so big for me, what was happening |
| 1:04.1 | from like a neuroscience psychology standpoint that they were so impactful. So that's where I went |
| 1:08.2 | into all these different certifications and cognitive behavioral therapy and neurolinguistic programming and hypnotherapy and trying to just bridge understanding, especially our subconscious mind and how we get wired and how that changes and how a lot of these different teachings have an impact on our neuroplasticity and impact our brain and the way that we show up and move in our lives. |
| 1:26.3 | No, I know. A lot of the things that I always kind of think, when I think about you, I think about |
| 1:32.4 | the attachment styles because so much of your content and what you speak about is about |
| 1:38.2 | all of our programmed, right, attachment styles. |
| 1:43.1 | And you're a big believer that we can, we can reprogram |
| 1:46.2 | ourselves to change our attachment styles, to have better relationships, not just personally in |
| 1:53.4 | terms of man, woman. It could be friends. It can be husband. It could be on every level, right? |
| 1:59.1 | Absolutely. My first question to use, when we make a decision, |
| 2:02.6 | in your opinion, are we basing the decision on our subconscious mind or our conscious mind? |
| 2:08.7 | That's a great question. So 95 to 97 percent of all of our beliefs, our thoughts, our emotions, |
| 2:14.0 | and our actions or choices, decisions are made at a subconscious level. That's the part of us. It's our habituated self. So it's sort of the warehouse of all of our conditioning and programming. And it's interesting because you hear about it in spiritual teachings kind of almost referred to as like the ego. It's like the warehouse of all of your conditioning. And it's so interesting how we get wired with these different patterns, but then your conscious mind is only 3 to 5 percent. |
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