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Welcome to Citizen. We've got a very special guest today,

recording artist Tommy Wext. How's it going, buddy?

It's good, man. It's good to see him. Starting the first, last time we

mixed up the schedule because I drove into LA from Vegas, so apologies, but we made it work today,

so glad to be here. Yeah, I mean, I guess I could have just rescheduled in person because I'm

going to be in Vegas Saturday through whatever for that shot show nonsense. It's always, I'm sure I'm

going to get sick. I've been to it before. I went in 2017. It's cool. It's just, you know, I was just

at the Olympia, like conventions are just kind of like, they're fun, but it's also like a giant

bacteria festival. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like, you may as well go hang out with your kids after

they've been at daycare all day. It's just people spreading pestilence, RSV, and whatever the

fuck else. Anyways, yeah, this has been a long time coming. I think you've got a pretty,

there's a couple of people specifically in the entertainment industry that have been

fucked around with, I guess, because of their political beliefs. And, you know,

I wonder, I think yours is a pretty interesting example. So let's get right into it. Explain,

you were part of a band, a very successful one, and then things kind of went sideways. Can you

take me through that whole process? Yeah, yeah. So I'll give you the Clifnitz version. I mean,

so bad. So I've been a singer for since I was like 16 years old, I'm 40. In my 30s, I wound up

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