People have been asking, like, do we think the Iran war leads to World War III?

And I'm like, not right now, not based on what I'm seeing, but we could get there.

Well, why not?

Because reassure me.

Reassure me.

Because I literally woke up today and got an ad for doomsday shopping.

Yeah. The

The I'm so glad to be joined again today on Bad Faith podcast by Dr. Annel Sheeline.

You know her as a woman who courageously resigned from the State Department back in

the spring of 2024. She is now a research fellow at the Quincy Institute. Welcome back to

Bad Faith Podcast. Thank you for having me. Now, it's a particularly opportune time for you to be

joining me because a lot of folks are gnashing their teeth,

very frustrated over some recent comments from Samantha Power, who very famously did not show

the courage that you showed and declined to resign from her position during the Biden administration

as the head of USAID, despite the fact that she has a Pulitzer Prize-winning

book about genocide and yet declined during Biden's tenure and his execution of the Gaza genocide

to say or do anything about it. I know that you reacted to her remarks on the internet.

Before we get into that, let's give people just a little bit of a sense of what she actually said. Okay, let me read just a little bit of this into the record.

All right, so the context of this is she was giving remarks at Notre Dame earlier this week.

A student, very savily asked, in your book, A Problem from Hell, you criticized

US's passivity in watching genocide unfold. You also recognize the power of using the word

genocide, the G word, and recognizing genocide. Yet as you yourself held a position of power in government,

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