On this episode of NOOTS World, we are continuing our series on artificial intelligence.

As OpenAI's chat GPT-4 continues to develop and gain media attention in public debate,

it is provoked a conversation in the creative community about when and how it should be

used and who owns the rights to the work.

The use of artificial intelligence in creative writing is part of what the writer's

Guild of America strike is about.

While my guest today has taken a new approach, journalist Stephen Marsh has been immersed

in the world of AI since 2017.

He is a believer in the benefits of AI as a tool for creative expression, and his new

novella, Death of an author, was written by three cutting-edge AI writing platforms.

The result is a gripping mystery that is 95% written by AI, his AI author's name is

Aiden Marshine, and 5% by Marsh, who skillfully crafted the story outline and machine prompts.

So I'm really pleased to welcome my guest, Stephen Marsh.

He is a novelist and essayist.

He wrote his first algorithmically generated story for Wired in 2017, and has written

about artificial intelligence, the New Yorker, the Atlantic, and the New York Times.

His books include The Next Civil War and on writing and failure.

Stephen, welcome, and I have to say this is one of the more fun things we've done on

Newt's world.

I mean, you know, is there a more fascinating subject in the world right now?

I don't actually think there is.

It's certainly at the absolute cutting edge, but I'm curious, when did you start getting

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