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Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Episode 551: Justin Traasdahl, Gay, Age 34, Conversion/Reparative Therapy

Listen, Learn & Love Hosted by Richard Ostler

Richard Ostler

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 839 Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

My friend Justin Traasdahl (Ukraine RM, BYU Grad) joins us to bravely share his story. Justin starts with opening up at age 13 to his parents about possibly being gay which led to a long and painful road with conversion therapy that lasted around 15 years. Justin’s hope in sharing his story helps “change hearts and trajectories”. Around age 29, Justin went to a new LDS therapist who told him “Justin, you know reparative therapy doesn’t work, right?” Justin shares questioning conversion therapy along the way —that this is who he is—but needed to hear this from a different therapist. Justin shares the pain, trauma and betrayal of conversion/reparative therapy and his road to healing and hope. It is a remarkable story of courage. One of the reasons Justin agreed to do this podcast is to help younger queer youth and parents avoid this type of therapy which is still legal in some states. Justin, who is no longer an active Latter-day Saint, talks about his hope for the future that includes sharing his life with his future husband. In a closing segment Justin talks to his 13-year-old self using language very different than conversion therapy. It is a beautiful segment on how I feel our Heavenly Parents see all Their children. Thank you, Justin, for being on the podcast. Sharing your story helps us all do better, and you are “changing hearts and trajectories”. You are a great man and have a wonderful life ahead of you. ** Please Check Out My LGBTQ Book At: ** Deseret Book: www.deseretbook.com/p/listen-learn-and-love-embracing-lgbtq-latter-day-saints Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1462135773 ** Want to develop church-supported LGBTQ activities in your local area? Please join our FB group below ** https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433556613672143

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome listeners to another episode of Listen, Learn, and Love hosted by Richard Osler.

0:09.9

In my house, doing this podcast today is my friend, who's been my friend for about five years, Justin Trosdahl.

0:17.5

Welcome to the podcast, Justin.

0:19.2

Thank you.

0:20.1

Thank you for having me. Will you tell our listeners

0:22.1

how to say and spell your last name? Sure thing. It's Trosdall. T-R-A-A-A-S-D-H-L.

0:31.3

And I'm going to try to say his name right the whole time. Justin is somebody I met probably four years ago on his third round age 30 when he came

0:42.0

out as gay and someone shared that Facebook post and I was trying to listen to stories.

0:46.6

And since that time, Justin and I have crossed past.

0:49.7

And I encouraged him if he'd be willing to share his story on the podcast. And I'm going to read the very

0:59.0

last part of his outline. I hope stories like mine change hearts and trajectories. The past

1:07.1

four years have been the most fulfilling in my entire life.

1:11.5

Sadly, I look back at the first 30 years with some disappointment.

1:15.7

I just wish I knew better.

1:17.6

But now, listeners, you know better.

1:19.7

Please don't fall for the same trap I did.

1:22.5

Please.

1:23.6

And I usually don't read the end of the podcast as an introduction to the podcast, but I thought that was really well written by Justin.

1:32.0

Justin is going to share his story growing up in Arizona and becoming aware of being gay and opening up to his parents who are good friends, Sandy and Glenn, and then having a long road with conversion therapy.

1:47.4

And that is going to be painful to hear.

1:50.3

And I admire Justin willing to talk about that because I would assume there's tons of trauma.

1:56.0

And some of you that have had gone through conversion therapy know that road firsthand.

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